Yeah when you clip the random moments where you crit 90% of your attacks and you’re hitting someone in full pve gear and low armor, it looks really fun.
Unfortunately 99% of your fights you’ll be lucky to crit above 700. Full rage bar executes under 1k crits if you’re fighting the wrong spec.
The ele sham that just killed me slapped me with a 2k+1k lava burst double crit in a global off an instant cast, i did 4k damage in ~10 seconds.
I know it doesnt help but believe me when I say power surge doesnt proc enough. That same shaman might have gone a while before he got another proc.
I am against instant proc spells. I want to make casting matter again. but how do you gut melee mobility w/o making them sitting ducks.
It doesn’t even matter if he gets another proc or not. Eles already do good damage off lightning bolt->chain lightning->flame shock, they already had a strong burst without lava burst proccing instant casts that hit just as hard as something they just hard cast.
blizzard has no idea how to balance casters either. that’s why we had tbc frost mage spamming instant cast ice lance into unbreaking nova’s. or if you want their recent retail designs, only a few years ago we had convoke… lmao
Since the devs have proven the goal of SoD is to degrade every aspect of PvP I support whole heartily
believe it or not i too dislike procs and have been the victim of no proc deserts along with the beneficiary of procs raining out of the sky every other tick.
doesnt seem to be a middle ground in all of it .
That’s why modern wow uses procs with high chance and set icds.
Makes more sense to just basically guarantee the thing you need in your rotation and then gate it with a timer so it’s not just sometimes up constantly and sometimes you never get it. (Funny how in SoD they do the opposite)
10% chance to proc sudden death, just lucked into 3 crits on a priest and almost killed him, full rage bar and no proc to spend my rage on. It probably would’ve only hit for like 700 and not crit but I can dream.
ya work with what ya got.
honestly the shaman they are all complaining about who spams lvb and is tanky as heck is most likely using full 5 pc zg set for the 10% proc chance (i do wonder if the 10% is copied on the extra player hit with flameshock cause if it is … umm heh) and honestly i doubt alot of people even collected the trinket much less the full set .
but like i said i bet even with that extra proc chance , there will be times where you cant get a proc for like 20 casts and full ticks of the entire dot portion and some where you get one every other tick or so fast that you cant even spam the cast key fast enough to use all the procs.
its annoying. and either unbalanced as heck or trolling yourself for even thinking you could possibly get a proc.
The real issue in my eyes, is that the class is balanced without these procs in mind, atleast it feels that way. So you end up with a spec that still does good damage, has self healing, has one of most broken utility spells ever released (Decoy totem, it removes slows too while acting as a pseudo free action every 20 seconds for 10 seconds), and then they get the procs and it’s just broken.
Like, shaman with no lava burst procs is still good, it’s just not absolutely bonkers.
I would give up Lava Burst for Lighting Lasso. =)
I’d uninstall if they gave you guys lasso.
I did in fact, uninstall when they buffed lasso in BFA and made it 1000% broken.
I was so hoping they would give us lasso. lol
I was hoping warrior would be a viable solo class for once. Since SoD was supposed to be about new stuff. But nah, fury is our pve spec and arms is… dead lol
naw . as a shaman having to hard cast everything while being forced to be so close to melee range that people can close at your max shock range in less than a second, you get pummeled / bashed/spell push backed/ect ect over and over by any person with a brain and cant get a cast off to save your life that isnt instant.
theres alot more to it than that but ya.
I mean, you could also just not play the rune that makes you fight in melee range… and then learn some proper positioning. You don’t NEED burn to make ele do damage in PvP. It’s just braindead easy to do damage with burn so why would you not?
hehe without the procs maybe?
with procs its no contest.
also even without procs i would say running burn is or would be just as mandatory as it is currently if not more so .
i suggest playing a mage or any caster that is forced to hard cast and to try playing it without using cc and you might get some insight on how it would work for a shaman without procs.
mages land their damage just fine because they have loads of cc, their damage is just absolute garbage. shamans could still land their damage with their toolkit, it just wouldn’t be over the top stupid “why am i suddenly missing 1/3rd of my hp?”
they are built with not having procs in mind.
but they have walked that back through a ton of nerfs to their healing and sustain .
im saying try running a caster that has to sit in melee mostly cause max shock range is 20 (25 for flame shock if you run sunken temple totem) and at 20 yards its less than 1 second walking distance to be all up in the shamans grill.
try getting a cast off against any melee with an interrupt and 2 brain cells to rub together and press the button.
or while getting your spells pushed back by any hunter auto attacking or anyone for that matter doing anything (btw spell pushback doesnt have a cap and 1 second spells can turn into 5+ second spells).
you say decoy is op or whatever else you want to throw in there but i can tell you , as a person who actively refuses to use spells sometimes to test how it would be without them , how it actually would go without the use or ability to use those spells.
its not pretty.
BG q times were never lower than they were doing p2, even with how absurdly broken enh was for literal months. Removing premades boosted the pvp scene.
25 yards is max charge/intercept range. it takes like a full second for either of those to reach at max range. You also have earthbind totem, frost shock, could run wolves for the stun, decoy totem, grounding totem, and can use shamanistic rage as a dr.
Shaman had no issue bodying warriors during vanilla. With a far weaker toolkit for escaping melee range.
warriors diddnt have half the tools they do now but whatever.
ahh well. i cant make you see it .
just know there are alot of other considerations to the whole thing that we arent taking into consideration .
but whatever.