Alliance, would you forgive the Horde?

I would rather follow a leader that I feel cares more about me than the Alliance.

Baine cares more about the Alliance than he does about me.

If my options are “someone that is genocidal, but at least attacks my enemies” and “someone who straight up cares more about the Alliance than the Horde”…I will take the lesser of the two evils.

Baine is the worse evil.

Edit:

When did Baine stand up to Sylvanas? When she killed other Tauren? No.

When he could do something nice for the Alliance? Yes.

Tell me oh so wise and chief of Sylvanas fan boy, what was Sylvanas doing when Genn attacked her??? You people soon forget she was doing her own evil thing trying to ensnare the people we where helping to her own personal gain.

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So you’d follow someone who’s end game is to raise you as an undead puppet… Smart… /hellasarcasm

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If we can waterboard Sylvannas and Nathanos in holywater, then sure!

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Better than following someone who believes helping the enemy is better than helping his own people.

I am saying both options are horrible. They have written the Horde leaders so badly, its hilarious.

I am saying Baine is worse. What Sylvanas is doing is bad, but I’d rather not follow a leader that is actively acting on behalf of the Alliance…to such an extreme he disregards the lives of his own people.

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I wish Vol’jin was still the leader. Loth’remar would even be a better choice than Sylvanas…

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Vol’jin got the short end of the stick. It disgusted me. He was a leader that was able to want to make the Horde better, without feeling like he was a hypocrite or in the back pocket of the Alliance.

Loth’remar feels like a nobody at this point. I sometimes forget he even exists.

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As if the 15 year old covergirl Anduin would do anything bad to us, regardless of the outcome of the war. Unfortunately, that’s all that really matters.

PS- no side will “win” this war.

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Yea Vol’jin had so much potential. It’s a shame they did him dirty like that.

I’m just stating loth’remar has a stronger leadership personality. Doesnt take crap but has good judgement.

At this point I’m hoping for a third faction to splinter off. One that’s evil. My undead warlock would happily join. My other hordies have too much honor to follow sylvanas.

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I would forgive the blood elves and they could return to the Alliance. The Nightborne would probably want to come along with them. The rest of the Horde should be dismantled. Disarm them and keep a close watch on them all. I don’t think we should kill them because commiting any kind of genocide is just wrong.

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Dont forget the Tauren. They could go hang out with the Nelves.

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How could I forget! They’re pretty much an Alliance race already considering how Baine likes Anduin so much :blush:

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I am guessing you started playing after Cata…Sylvanas started this war my man, got to read up on the lore.

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What did Sylvanas do to start this war before Cata, the war that didn’t start till Legion?

Sylvannus also disobeyed orders when she wanted to!
If they want Greymane punished for beating her and thwarting her pursuit for immortality, at the expense of our fight against the legion, then punish the Lich Queen first!

And just to remember the horde, in the alliance, the member leaders are not High King’s servants, of how the racial leaders of the horde are to warchief! In the end, Genn was right to stop Syl from completing his evil ambitions!
It was a good thing for the Alliance in the medium and long term!

Hunting the leader of the valkyrs was nothing more than she pursuing her selfish goals, no matter how much it might cost for the sake of the alliance!

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Genuinely curious.

What orders did the Warchief disobey?

Yes. It is a good thing for the Alliance to disobey orders and only care about their own personal plans. I get it.

The Horde better not. But the Alliance? No problem. They get a pass.

if the script tells me too

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she disobeyed garrosh’s orders on not using blight

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No.

The Alliance has forgivrn the Horde twice already. And the Horde went too far. There’s no way to avoid dismantling it if the Alliance wins this time.