These types of players know that’s where the pugs are, so avoid the challenge of facing 10 mans in wsg, knowing that with horde que times the only premades in ab will be ten mans at most.
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And the same applies to Horde who premade 
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What if they just have 5 more friends than you do?
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in their defense, I either win 99% of AB’s against the alliance if its a pug. or I lose 99% of games against premades…. I would love for blizz to make it to where u cant make a premade group unless you also get matched w/ a premade group. but lets be real, if alliance couldn’t premade WSG or AB, they would overload the forums with rage of losing so much. just like they cant premade AV’s and I can only recall losing like 2 of those since launch. after they made the AV changes.
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Yep pretty much what it has come to. Alliance players interested in pvp have to get a premade, or you lose 90% of games in pug vs pug. Its the same players that are in alterac valley, there for the rep. Alliance pug groups generally have 5-6 people only there for rep rewards and 3-4 of them afk if BS fight is lost.
Just another negative side affect of 80% of pvp players going horde, and premades are the only solution.
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horde like alliance to be their free-range food.
they get very hostile when alliance organizes and fights back.
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I mean you’re kinda forced to premade in order to keep up with the HPH of everyone else
solo queing wont carry you anymore
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Its premades no matter what you pick between Warsong or Arathi, if you select either of those you have like a 90% chance to get a full team of zugzug and it does not matter if you are horde, it happens to us alliance as well.
Premades aren’t created equal.
I’ve beaten several premades the past few days in WSG and AB
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At least you can win just by being a pain for the premade some will just townhall if its work. We burn through consumes and have to be playing 10+hrs if you’re going past r11
If they made it premade vs premade idd love winning being key to more honor rather than fast stomps or a townhall loss. Our fast ques are a curse and a blessing
I second this
I never actually heard the term “townhall” until I watched an alliance premade team from my server today against a horde premade team from my server. At one point the raid leader said to town hall it and there was a big fight about not townhalling your own server or it would be all over the server discord (which is true). They ended up actually playing AB and the match was pretty good.
Weird, just got out of an AB pug where we beat the Horde pretty bad.
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Like Horde are doing now, when you can just as easily make premades yourself.
It’s a multiplayer game- not having the social skills to join a team and work together just means you lack a very valuable talent for doing well in a team game.
But go ahead- keep whining about how you’re getting wrecked in AB/WSG.
LOL There is no such conspiracy in the alliance. We just have options to choose from. So many premade teams play 10man wsg and dont queue AB because honor is better and faster. We do it because we can, not for any other reason.
If you could Q instantly with 15man premade wouldn’t you do that as well? It makes sense to do it. If you premade then do it as it should be done.
Horde is the one that is forced to adjust, alliance is doing it right and plays whatever they want to.
You think lose a game is a big deal? LOL its just 5min to make a coffee and then instant Q into the next pug.
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Lol you’re wrong I ran into 3x 15 man horde premades in a row today. Not sure how you think this is a one sided issue when a majority of pvpers are zugs.
pug versus pug and the horde win, whys that? XD
if there was two separate queues for say “rated” and just casual for classic the horde queue times would be enormous, but worth it tbh , id like to see them do a premade vs premade queue and just random joes queue.
If AV has taught us anything, it’s that the alliance will just quit entirely if they can’t premade an entire match. AV has a huge queue for horde side because most of the alliance simply don’t go there, and it’s obviously because they can’t premade an AV raid. If we impose the 5man cap to every BG, or just disable premade queue entirely; the alliance would probably unsub.
I cannot take Horde pvp whining seriously.
It’s like a rich white student complaining that minorities study hard and get better results and it’s not fair.
Premade or get good. Stop trying to force people to play at your level because you don’t want to put in the effort. Alliance isn’t doing anything you cannot, you’re just thinking you’re entitled to winning all the time.
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