Horde had their share of bots too. We usually gang-reported them. From what I saw the >10 allies at the start of the game we’rent actually bots but feebly tried to defend their objectives but gave up fast. I have sympathy for them not afking out. Better to get what they can in there than get deserter because premades ruined their randomly-assigned AV ID and afk for 15 mins despite their instant queue.
That isn’t very viable for alliance since once you go defense you become trapped. The map is not favorable for ally team tactics that involve splitting and pugs don’t have the coordination to adapt. Hence why our decent players banded together in premades. With that gone av likely dies.
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Soon, alliance will complain about losing WSG because they’ve started with 10 men and can’t find drekk to bubble pull.
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More excuses and justifications to why they premade…
Nah WSG map is actually balanced … whereas AV bwahahahahaa!
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you horde keep throwing around this word EVEN, not sure you know what it means, lemme show you something, 1 sec, grabbing the AV map from wowhead, drawing a line from alliance cave to the “middle” of the map (field of strife), now i will copy that line, mirror it, and stick it at the horde cave.
EVEN game, would mean they both meet in the middle.
does that look even to you?
https://imgur.com/El1UgNU
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Excuses? I don’t even play in the premades try again. It’s called an objective observation you brainlet
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If we had a fantastic bottleneck similar to IB positioned forward of our bunkers this would be our strategy… just like horde weirdly enough.
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Lets be honest, the premades were only made to maximize honor/hour. It was not in response to anything else other than the desire to reach the top honor bracket and were inevitable as long as they were possible.
Alliance are well acquainted with the Iceblood choke, it turns out when the Alliance control it its still a very strong chokepoint too…but the Horde still could get out and push north. Alliance can very much do the same, the only problem is that it takes time…and if you’re only goal is to win or lose fast, then your win-percentage is going to suffer.
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I seem to remember an alliance boycott of AV some time ago…when was that?
Alliance will always be at a disadvantage because there are fewer skilled players to go around due to the populations imbalance. Therefore the need for premads exists. That’s not an excuse it’s a fact. Stop being dumb. Unless you are trolling in which case gj
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You still have fantastic choke-points. They’re just never utilized.
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care to name one?
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Ummm the bridge ? Let’s hold that and give away 2 bunkers and 2 GY’s. It also needs big numbers to defend which means advancing forward is extremely difficult. Especially when the IWB area is now a horde bottleneck with a horde owned GY just behind it. The back door welcome mat into our base means the bridge is not even a bottleneck,
To take IB we need massed numbers while horde need fewer defenders which means it is a perfect arrangement to allow reasonable numbers to go offense.
Those “fantastic” choke points you mention are just a temporary annoyance as you roll through.
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I disagree, ally players had no choice but to premade in order to win more than 10% due to our pug players are complete trash. And that has to do with a massive population imbalance that means there are fewer skilled players to go around on ally teams.
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besides being literally AT OUR BASE, you can run through the back jump spot, try another again.
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There is a reason old AVs lasted literal days, and it wasn’t Iceblood. I understand the chokepoint is deep in Alliance territory, but a handful of people can hold it basically indefinitely. Unavoidable hunter traps (extra bonus for entrapment,) slowing people in front of 2 bunkers worth of archers. And that “backdoor” everyone is so quick to point out, can be completely shut down by a single hunter or mage.
Here on horde side have won several matches holding only Drek’s house, No graveyard or anything…simply because Alliance doesn’t even try to defend. But if you’re all ready of the mindset “they’re here, so we’ve lost” then yes…you’re going to lose if you have all ready given up.
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IDK if you could call it balanced LMAO…there is a Horde wall/terrain exploit where you can hold the flag for like forvever and an Alliance terrain exploit where you just run up to the FR between the GY and tunnel.
…and then the fact you can get MC/Feared into the portal.
Jesus, Blizzard…fix your game 
Gonna let you in on a secret. The ratios of people who play on the Horde are exactly the same as on the Alliance. The ratio of what you call “trash” is the same, the ratio of bots and afkers too. The problem is that is not honor efficient to defend at all, so premades had to find the best way to win or lose fast.
Either side would have done it if it was possible at all. It was possible for the Alliance so they did it.
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have you played AV today? I played a few games, I saw a STREAM of horde just bypass all of that and get in through the backdoor to dun baldar, kill any alliance and (for some f’ed up reason) and they spawn at the cave, NOT at aid station, and now the “choke” is yours.
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