A racist idiot who didnt really have the support of the greater whole of the Alliance decided to try and genocide the elves?
Arthas also happens to have been the king of the people that are now the forsaken. And as I mentioned earlier. The Alliance wasnt supporting Arthas or even condoned what he did…unlike the Horde and Theramore/Darnassus.
Did you miss the Horde never approving or condoning either action?
The Horde was CHEERING when Theramore was bombed. They literally threw a party after.
And Sylvanas still had the majority supporting her hence why the odds of the second Siege of Ogrimmar was still in her favor.
The greater Alliance were mostly dead or broken up. And if you are gonna pretend here that Blood Elves were an Alliance unit, tell the whole story. They came back for help and were joined up with Garithos and his men because they were all that was left. Garithos and his men thought they were weird, imprisoned them and sentenced them to death.
He was the Prince of the seat of the then Alliance.
You need to take your propaganda into politics or something. You’d do great there. Not doing so hot here.
It’s clearly Argent Crusade territory now, not Forsaken.
The Forsaken haven’t even tried to establish a presence in the Eastern Plaguelands.
Because Vol’jin and Baine, and those like them, were definitely cheering about Theramore’s destruction (the majority of the Horde supported them, not Garrosh - he didn’t even command most of the orcs during the Darkspear Rebellion.)
Majority? She had the Bilgewater Cartel and the Mag’har Orcs as of the potential Second Siege of Orgrimmar; that’s it - and even then Geya’rah immediately defected and became quite the advocate for peace after.
The greater Alliance? It was just Lordaeron and Dalaran that was destroyed.
Ironforge/Stormwind/Kul Tiras and Gnomeregan(well some of it anway) was still around and kicking.
He was a prince but his dad(who he killed) was the one leading the Alliance not him.
I could say the same about you who keep spinning old lore to fit your twisted view.
They had broken away from this Alliance by then.
Yes that’s what a Prince is. His Dad was King.
I’m not spinning anything. You are the one here leaving out important information to paint a certain picture. The Blood Elves were never your’s. If anything they were isolationist for most of their history.
You can cope as much as you want.
The Thalassian and Human relationship has always been overblown. They were never friends as a rule; The Windrunners, Dalaran, etc was always the exception. Anasterian and Garithos respectively match what the other thought of them as a majority.
The Blood Elves were never going Alliance because they’ve never been given a reason to; the entire point of their campaign in Warcraft 3 is abandoning the Alliance due to Garithos’s racism and xenophobia to join the Naga, a monstrous-looking faction. The Blood Elves going Horde is a natural evolution from this.
What? None of them left the Alliance. At worse Gnomer was simply not sending supporting it because they had domestic problems.
Which again means he did things on his own without his dad(or the Alliance) support.
The blood elves were literal members of the Alliance and if the Horde didnt need a pretty race likely would never have been made a Horde race.
Regardless, the void elves, which are also blood elves were made playable anyway so this argument is moot.
We know that. We remember how much Alleria had to convince High Elves to even get involved in the affairs of men. We know that as soon as the High Elves had fulfilled the promise to Anduin Lothar that the majority of the race left the Alliance. And we know that in Warcraft III that only Kael and his magisters went back for help to only be able to come across Garithos that sentenced him and his men to death for daring to get help from the Naga who seemed to be the only ones at the time willing to help. Garithos sent them on hopeless missions hoping they would die before imprisoning them and sentencing them to death.
It’s only certain Helfer posters that try to pretend that it was anything else.
But the Horde needed a pretty race! (as if Vanilla’s game design wasn’t disproportionately slanted in favor of the Alliance in terms of raid locations, better zones, so on.)
They would go on to join up with what would be the new Alliance. They were nowhere around where Blood Elves were to give any opinion on Garithos.
I’m not saying that Terenas gave his blessing, but that Arthas was an important member of that Alliance and attacked Blood Elves and his own people.
They had to be convinced to join, left as soon as they could, and never joined back up as a race. Kael and his magisters were the only ones that tried to get help from Garithos. The remaining part of that Alliance, only to be sentenced to death.
That has nothing to do with this and didn’t happen until late Legion.
I do think part of it was that, but it wasn’t all of it. Like that guy tries to paint.
Plagueshifters have been trying for years to freshen up the Plague Lands, a large reason Tauren even helped the Forsaken is because the Tauren could study how to neutralize the Plague.
If the Alliance wants to take over a ruined landscape and dump the Black Ooze into the Undercity and fill it in with blessed concrete for a mount parking lot next to Brill’s Buc-ee’s, please do.
A) New tree.
B) Legion ship.
I’ve got options.
Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken, I don’t want the Alliance in any Horde territory. They can have Tol Barad.
We were members of the Alliance once.
Then a human wiped out 90% of the elves
Then another human tried to wipe out the rest.
Then the Alliance spied on them.
Then even more Alliance tried to disable the wardstones keeping the Scourge at bay
Then the Alliance massacred them in Dalaran when we thought we might overlook that and join back up anyway.
Also the Ranger-General everyone loved was in the Horde and sent aid while the Alliance sent saboteurs.
So yeah, Blood Elves in the Horde makes way more sense than the Alliance.
They were reclaiming it for themselves. Many of them are Lordaeronians as it happens. (Probably most of the humans invovled.) They wouldn’t be likely to hand it over to the Forsaken.
There is no “new” Alliance. Again, the Alliance is like Dunkin. It changed its name and some locations closed but it is still the same organization.
And no, the gnomes never left the Alliance.
Which again he did as an individual. The fact he was Alliance is irrelevant. And if you want to be technical, Ner’zhul, a former Horde warchief, was the one who was manipulating him.
It has everything to do with(or rather it is just another in the endless reasons why we got to where we are in Midnight being mostly neutral). Because now the Alliance has a race that directly ties to Silvermoon.