Alliance needs better pvpers

Boy oh boy alliance stinks at wpvp. Pmuch all of them. At least try to bind some of your spells and use the “s” key as a bind too. So hilarious to watch them get raid after raid mowed down by levels 50s. Population imbalance isn’t your problem, you are.

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Horde have the pvp racials. Perhaps have some of the hardcore pvpers stop minmaxing advantages. Take out racials, and you would get better ally pvpers

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Why do people that play horde make so many threads about PvP

And what the hell is “S” you neanderthal I use the arrows…

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They are bored with their 12 friends waiting at the thorium point flight master for that one alliance that joined a BRD PUG to corpse camp.

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Because horde have a pvp racial advantage, so the majority of hardcore pvpers will be on that faction. And, pvpers like to talk smack.

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Why would pvpers that are serious about pvp roll alliance the racial abilities suck.

Anyone with a brain knows how busted horde is compared to alliance.

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Because when you beat someone with an advantage you know you were better

When you win with a handicap you go your whole life thinking… You know

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Holy mackerel what a bunch of stinkers. Not even racials can save you.

Horde :white_check_mark:
Edgy Undead :white_check_mark:

0/10

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Really? You believe that there is such a faction racial ability imbalance that it would impact WPVP, that much?

Horde isn’t great either as shown in this video :grin:

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Lawl. You think its bad these days? You should have seen how many Clicker/keyboard turners there used to be.

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Yes. Racials like wotf are basically a 2nd trinket. It’d be naive to think anyone who wants an advantage wouldn’t go horde. This naturally puts more on that side, which leads to the wpvp we have.

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I actually do tend to agree with OP in that Horde are generally more skilled in the technical aspects, better visual spatial abilities, faster reflexes.

Competitive players tend towards Horde (people just love to play with people they feel kinship with), and it’s undeniable that competitive players seek out any advantage in order to win, so naturally they will be drawn again to Horde for the better pvp racials.

My own suspicion is that Alliance need at least a 3:2 population advantage on a pvp server in order for wpvp to sort of even out.

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How does it feel to play an OP class and just smash 3 buttons to win?

Just know that Im going to actively seek out and murder your kind in game. And when Im done, I will corpse camp you for the next 2 hours.

EDIT: sorry, 4 buttons. Forgot how people brainlesy spam WOTF withount 2nd thoughts.

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Just how much of an advantage are you claiming? And, in the context of WPVP, that includes things like Paladins being able to grant Blessing of Freedom to Warriors, which the Horde obviously doesn’t have, but WF totem does give some nice procs.

I’d be curious as to what the claim is, with regards to advantage, and if there is any data that supports it.

Numbers advantage.

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WotF is a 3rd trinket.

Orc hardiness being 25% instead of something reasonable like 10% deletes rogues.

Troll Blood Craze + bow spec is the best cloth-killer hunter in the game.

Tauren have the only aoe stun in the game which is also a 3rd trinket slot.

It’s pretty damn significant.

Basically, every horde race has a hyper useful extra trinket.

Only 2 alliance races do, and they’re much more situational.

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The complexity of the cause and effects here means there is no way to ‘prove’ that individually and collectively, Horde choose to be Horde because of the racials on a conscious level.

The fact that Horde outnumber Alliance on PvP servers would suggest that there is a connection between superior individual PvP racials and choice of faction.

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Oh, I understand what the racials are. I’m just quite curious as to what the claim is for precisely how significant the advantage is.

Alliance also have racials, and there’s also Paladin vs Shaman to consider.

There is literally a thread on this asking for details/numbers/simulations. I mean, surely there’s got to be something to back up the claim other than, “Duh. Can’t you see it’s obvious?”

Yes, I think that some of the racials are better on the Horde side. Do I think that equates to 90% more wins? No. But, I could be wrong! How would I determine that?