Alliance can't win without exploiting queues

I find it hilarious that the Alliance are getting destroyed after their premade exploit with the AV numbers was fixed. Weren’t you guys bragging about being better in a fair fight during phase 2? Now you are crying because the Horde can premade just as well as you can now. You have a FAR easier time getting to Drek than we have getting to Van. As for the choke point at SH, try sending more than 5 or 10 people at a time and you can get through it. Learn to play and you will start winning AV again.

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premades know how to play. why do you hate on them?

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maybe horde should stop forcing #changes to the game

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Premades are fine, but exploiting the queue to premade and screwing over pugs on your faction was a huge problem.

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hey man. they queued fair and square. if the game happened to group them together, so be it.

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In other words, Blizzard needs to give the Alliance an unfair advantage so they can beat the Horde in PvP.

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we queue…you queue…I dont see advantage. just take the L and be better. in fact…Be Best!

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horde have a backdoor exploit that was added from retail client, that hill behind dun baulder was not in vanilla

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And you can pull Drek without fighting any of the adds with a bubble pull.

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you can do the same solo pull of van

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Isn’t that why you are making a cry thread?

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no need to resort to namecalling because you’re bad at PVP. Just treat each loss as an opportunity to learn and be better. There are plenty of youtube guides you can use for free to improve yourself. If you’d put as much effort into your toon as you do into your crying, you’d be having a much better time in AV.

if you need further support on the basics of warrior pvp, let me know and I’ll look some up for you.

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Lets be real here, most of these “premades” are mostly pugs with discord. There really is no leadership among them. I’ve yet to lose since their workaround.

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Based on the 30 million threads on Pugs performance in AV I think it is safe to say that it wasn’t the premades that were hurting Alliance pugs. They were more than capable of doing it to themselves lol. Now they start off 40v40 and still lose all the time.

I mean you aren’t really convincing anyone otherwise by cherry picking a few statements here and there and trying harvest salt with them.

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You can lie to yourself all you want, but don’t expect the rest of us to drink your Koolaid.
I rolled Alliance for a challenge because who wants to play with an OP advantage?
Oh, that’s right, you do!

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At least now it’s their own fault for sucking at the game instead of not standing a chance at all.

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All I can say if the end results are still the same was there ever a difference?

Was there really a need to bow to the disgruntled solo Q players and make changes that impacted things both inside and outside BGs?

The answer is obviously no, but welcome to the #nochangesinaction era.

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AV is not a fair fight. The map is so broken.

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I agree since being able to completely ignore the towers as Alliance is BROKEN.

You’re bad. Horde can ignore towers as well. Both factions can solo pull leaders.

In fact the horde version of solo pulling requires less coordination.

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