lol by this logic you can do the same thing at IB GY
IB GY res point is BEHIND the graveyard, and wants you to go NORTH, not defend.
How? The only way through is that one path by IBT.
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Thereâs only one way past Ally 2nd bunker and no way to not get hit with archers are you on drugs? Even if you hug the left side of the bunker you get dismounted and put in combat.
These people are Horde pride poisoned morons, there is no use. It doesnât matter if you yourself play Horde, if you admit that the Horde have an advantage at something they canât accept it and say you are an Alliance shill. There is no objective discussion to be had. They have to believe the only and sole reason they ever win is because they are 100x more skilled for picking red instead of blue. Some weird psychological thing at work.
Lmao. I play Horde.
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Can I get that invite? Cafiend #6693
I have my epic mount. Iâm 30/0/21. 5p felheart 2p rare pvp set.
Okay, so much disinformation⌠I am wanting to get into AV premades. I am one of those who spends WAY too much time on WoW, and BGâs are my focus. Help me maximize my time please! How do I get into an AV premade?
Hey bud! Looking to join AV premades! Not easily finding you or your link on Discord. Can you give me a little guidance please?
Fair PvP: alliance and horde both having the option to team up for PvP in the world.
Unfair PvP: alliance having the option to premade, allowing only geared / 100% mount users and no afk players vs the horde who donât have that option.
Stop kidding yourself tbh.
Good luck with that considering Im on a PvE server. Ill happily farm you for honor and rep on all my alts using the premades, then come out of the BG and enjoy myself doing whatever I want in BRM all day without repercussion.
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i have mained horde since vanilla beta and i can honestly say, horde have a major advantage in AV. no question.
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PVE servers should probably have their own BG queues. Seeing as how you didnât actually earn any of your gear.
Agreed, I dont see how horde get screwed in AV?
Horde can reach our southernmost tower + touch Belindaâs building before alliance can. Theres an approx. 20-30% difference in distance from the starting gate to the first objectives on alliance side which is the most egregious example of being âunfairâ if we want to throw that around.
Galv can fear the raid vs Belindaâs iceblockâallowing horde to wipe them easier or reset.
All alliance GYâs are in culdesacs. FWGY and IBGY are open, with IBGY being the best spawn chokepoint by far.
Distance from Stormpike > Relief station is shorter and a straight shot. However, the bridge is possibly an advantage alliance have here, as more archers can attack for longer. This was indirectly nerfed by 1.12AV when they nerfed all the NPCs in general though. (There was also a time where alliance as dismounted when running through the tower in the horde base).
Location of teleport/relief hut flag location is significantly better for horde. Horde stage Marshall pulls directly on top of the flag making backcapping nearly impossible. Teleporting to this spot as alliance, you are guaranteed to be surrounded.
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You kind of underestimate your own sides lust to win. Despite the idea of how desperate youâd have to be to bother with premades as Horde due to queues, it IS a reality. I play AV quite a lot and we lose a huge number of them. The matches I get into are quite often instant 30-40 players on Horde at any given time of the day. Itâs unfortunately not uncommon for Alliance to start matches with <20 players. It sometimes gets to a point where itâs all about the HK farming. My last match went on for so long that I just /afkâd out, but a good 40min in, Horde were just GY camping SPGY⌠didnât even bother to cap bunkers the entire time. Yaâll are crazy in a bad way lol.
Donât forget the 4+ ways to exploit the cliff to get into DB. I havenât had a single match where at least 1 Horde has not (successfully) taken advantage of that. One of them doesnât even require jumping to get into the base, as you just literally run up the cliff lol.
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You are delusional. Yes horde can premade but rankers cannot as in order to premade we have to queue for a specific BG with no clue how itâs going to end. Also due to Queues we donât have 1000âs of people jumping on that bandwagon to do it and have just as high a chance that only 10-20 land in the specifically queued BG and the rest then land after that game. Youâve had a ânumber ofâ games that you matched up against those groups, I played 20 games yesterday and 19 of them were premades. Itâs completely skewed on this one, donât get it twisted lol.
Have to, or choose to?
All the better PVPers know Paladins make Alliance better at organized pvp than Horde in Vanilla/Classic. So, the reason any of the good pvpers rolled Ally was to organize and take advantage of that fact. Thus, youâd expect to see all the best Ally players in premades doing exactly that, grinding Horde into paste.
No different than the masses choosing to play follow the uber for world pvp and pick horde then gank 5v1 at every flightpath lol.
Itâs just people optimizing their play to fit their choices for âfunâ.
good thing no one uses that one no more but people like you.
lolololololol
consider it a PUG premade.
Which is why Blizz either needs to allow us to queue as full 40 man Premades because Alliance is or they need to fix it where Alliance canât or you are going to be lacking in Horde players willing to participate.
While I agree with you, I donât think thereâs any danger of lacking Horde for participation.
Outnumbering a faction by drastic numbers does NOT mean youâre goodâŚat all.
Stop acting like you are. From someone who has played Horde since original vanilla and is now playing Alliance due to friends and has seen both sides of the coin. A lot of these âfacerollâ pugs are because alliance are only half queued into the raid at the START of AV. This is occurring because of the Alliance AV premades happening. Imagine if half of your Horde raid is queued for the first 5 mins of active gameplay, with no buffs, no plan, nothing, then the fresh people FINALLY join and see that Balindaâs dead, both bunkers are being capped, and SP GY is being capped. Imagine the motivation you have to play that game. Just think, for once in your life. Iâve still been in games where we have STILL came back from this aweful start and won. Donât be naĂŻve to think that your a chad, âGET GUD ZUG ZUGâ if youâre horde and not alliance. How about stop being a coward, or afraid to be on a faction that is waaaaay lower in numbers. Then you can talk.
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