All Things Warrior in TWW (Feedback Points)

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

@Valorcus-stormrage

Rend no longer is a good button to press as it serves a seriously redundant purpose. Why do I press Mortal Strike, which applies Deep Wounds, to then only have to press another global, Rend, to apply essentially another Deep Wounds? Silly stuff.

Yeah, it would make sense just to combine Rend and Deep wounds like they did in the past.

Rend is not an exciting button to press and lots of things apply it anyway. Just have everything that works with Rend apply to Deep Wounds.

If they want to give Rend a purpose, they should give it the Skull Splitter effects.

@Valorcus-stormrage

Thunderclap should have been permanently merged with Whirlwind by this point. It makes way more sense to have Cleave and then also have either Whirlwind or Thunderclap.

I like the different animations. If anything I think they should give Arms the Fury WW, give it a CD, and have it replace Sweeping Strikes.

Sweeping Strikes does not have a good animation and the GCD on a move that does no damage feels bad.

@Valorcus-stormrage

I like your suggestion of casting a few cleaves to empower Whirlwind. That actually sounds really clever.

I kinda liked that in Legion. Not sure I want them linked again though.

@Archimtiros-sargeras

I don’t know if it should necessarily be applied by Mortal Strike, since that’s already a high value ability that’s kept basically on cooldown, but I’m sure there’s an answer somewhere that also helps Fury with the same problem.

Have Slam refresh Hamstring >_>

[Ainsoph-bleeding-hollow (Ainsoph)]

Hi, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but this was the most relevant one I found regarding the Rend ability.

I’m a returning PVP-only Warrior, and I was interested in learning more about the most recent discussion on this thread about when/if you use Rend. I was thinking of doing a build without any Rend abilities at all.

I was a bit confused by this:

@Valorcus-stormrage

Overall, Rend feels incredibly redundant as a keybind. Why press Mortal Strike to hit hard, reduce the target’s healing received and also to apply Deep Wounds, just to then press another ability immediately following that just once again applies “Deep Wounds”. It’s very strange and dull.

Is Valorcus here saying that it’s strange, and yet you would (should) still do it? What is the benefit of this? Do Deep Wounds keep rolling kind of like Mage Ignites?

Would I be making a big mistake in forgoing all Rend abilities? Any special mechanics or interactions I would be missing out on if I do that, besides the meager damage?

Thanks!

[Valorcus-stormrage]

@Ainsoph-bleeding-hollow

Is Valorcus here saying that it’s strange, and yet you would (should) still do it? What is the benefit of this? Do Deep Wounds keep rolling kind of like Mage Ignites?

Sorry for the late reply back and I believe I saw you make a similar thread somewhere else trying to ask if you would be at a disadvantage not taking Rend.

I can speak for PvP but not PvE. Unfortunately the answer is yes. You will be worse off without Rend by a large margin in PvP.

Rend does damage regardless of armor. So Rend is high value against Paladins, Warriors and DK compared to just spamming Overpower/Slam as fillers.

Then, so many classes have such high mobility that you need to have Rend rolling on them at all times to maintain damage and pressure. Mages and Hunters are big counters to Warriors in PvP. Without Rend, you will find it so difficult to kill these targets.

As for the gameplay element, yes Rend is redundant. Rend is essentially Deep Wounds #2.

I personally, love Arms the most when I am pressing Mortal Strike, Overpower and Execute for the vast majority of my rotation. I also enjoy throwing in the occasional Slam/WW as rage dumps for tactician procs. But nothing kills the spec for me more than having to constantly press and maintain my Rend on targets.

[Bloodronin-sargeras]

It still baffles me that armored to the teeth isn’t where wild strikes stands since avatar and armored to teeth are always taken.

Cruel strikes, a crit talent imo should be above spear since that capstone deals with crit.

Other than that I totally agree with everything you mentioned

Sadly, this feedback was given during beta. Maybe we will see changes in 11.1.