All the top RWF Mythic Raid Guilds using Dwarf Blood DK's - Stoneform Racial too OP

It is worth pointing this out but due to various mechanics on Fyrakk all of the Race to World First guilds are using a Blood DK as one of their tanks. This is due to things like Gorefiends Grasp, Purgatory, and the self sustainability of Blood DK.
However, one this that is going under the radar is the fact that all of these Blood DK’s are Dwarfs. This is even for the Horde guilds for example Meeressteel for Echo.

This is purely to take advantage of stoneform the fact that it Removes all harmful Poison, Disease, Curse, Magic, and Bleed effects. on top of that it also reduces all physical damage taken by 10% for 8 sec. on a 2 min cooldown.
Making this one racial something that is providing a significant advantage to this one Alliance Race over anyone of the available Horde races.

While I understand that this is possible to do now with the changes that have been made to allow alliance and horde players to raid together and be in the same guild. It is just once again showing clearly that the Alliance Racial Traits are providing such a powerful benefit in game over anything available to the various horde races.

Consider what would happen if for example the Undead Racial - Will of the Forsaken was changed to be an ability which:

Removes all harmful Poison, Disease, Curse, Magic, and Bleed effects and increases your leech by 20% for an amount of seconds. Additionally this ability can be used while under the effects of Charm, Fear or Sleep effects on a 2 min cooldown.

It would definitely give Horde players a potentially viable option by comparison. Just something to think about…

Tinfoil hat time…

These imbalances remain because they know people who care about parsing, rwf teams, and ce guilds have players who will pay to race swap for the sake of min maxing. Pure cash grab.

For example the current difference from top to bottom for unholy dk (troll vs. vulpera) is 7.3k dps in favor of troll.

All about those $$$

can confirm changed dwarf 2 days ago for stoneform and crit dmg on oblit frost. they got my money

I have no sympathy for Horde players on this topic. You have access to Dwarf for your raids now if it’s “mandatory”.

(PS @Rensi: why necro lol)

You have an interesting idea Rensi as it is potentially feasible that these significant imbalances remain. However, I don’t think it would be a system that would create a period of time in which they would actively seek to leverage. The key reason for this is that it honestly wouldn’t provide enough of a increase to those particular service revenue streams overall to make them even identifiable vs those same revenue streams at any other period of time.

That being said many of the Horde Racials used to be significantly better than what they are now. It is true that many racial abilities have been modified in way that has drastically nerfed and diminished them for some races. It is also true that some have been modified and this has vastly improved that ability over its previous version. The reason I am bringing this up is that in almost all instances where there have been modifications to a horde racial ability it has been a change that resulted in them being nerfed drastically reducing the potential and usefulness that they had prior to the modifications. While the same isn’t true for the Alliance racials unlike the horde racials in almost all cases any changes or modifications that have been done to an Alliance Racial it has resulted in a significant improvement in some way making them much more useful but is now highly desired because of the benefit and utility they bestow.

To point out some of these alliance racials that provide a significant advantage over anything available to horde races.

  • Shadowmeld

  • Stoneform

  • Will to Survive

  • Fireblood

Just to name few.

Dwarves seem popular so people must want a new dwarf race, right?

:joy:

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Humans received a significant nerf because of the pvp shift being so strong. That mode is built entirely around burst windows though, so it makes sense that people gravitated to humans when the racial was busted (and it was).

Pretty sure there are blue posts about racial balance being used to tip the scales and make sure you don’t get gross faction imbalance every now and then. They’ve been very slow to move in the past though, and it’s bitten them on more than one occasion when reverting or fixing racials didn’t rebalance out the factions.

Horde racials were so dominant in pvp for so long that it just lopsided the pvp community for literally years. The buffs to alliance didn’t successfully pull away all the entrenched horde, but the upper pvp tier became heavily orc or human for 3-4 years? Again, they knew what that human racial was and they did it very purposefully.

They’ve stated this a few times in blue posts through the years. No tin foil hat needed. It’s purposeful.

They do nerf alliance though, but only after it’s problematic. I don’t know if dwarves are there yet although they are playing with “too far” right now for sure. That racial is bonkers good for warriors, especially for something like ToT on push weeks.

Forum page jumped to old topics and I didn’t realize that. Pretty frustrating it continues to do this on mobile; otherwise thought it was at the top of the threads.

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In any competitive scenario these differences shouldn’t exist.

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