All of the Bad, None of the Good

In their efforts to get rid of RMT, blizz banned GDKPs. Not to worry, the market wont be extremely ridiculous right? People cant even afford raid consumes because the market went right to whitemane era prices.

Blizzard decides that Fresh Classic will be a 12 month campaign. Thats cool it worked out for SOM, right? Then they decide to gate R14 gear until AFTER P3 release. It already takes 2 months to hit R14. By capping us at R11 it actually adds another week to get R14. We’ll get maybe a month before R14 becomes just as good as AQ40 gear. Yay us! Oh and btw, get wrecked if you’re horde. Wont be getting much as far as weapons go for a long time.

They are doing a lot of the things they did in SOD but not adding double loot drops like they did in SOM. If they were to add double loot drops in, that would make gearing characters a much easier and better time. Orc warriors arent exactly excited at the prospect of the next 6 months without raid weapons or R14.

Blizz can lift this rank cap, bring gdkps back to the game, or add double loot drops, but that would fix all the problems and they have no interest

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To be fair Whitemane consumable prices were never that much higher than they were at the end of 2019 Classic.

But yeah I agree the GDKP ban was a bad choice. They did it so they could say they’re trying to fight RMT without having to actually invest any money into dealing with the problem.

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Anyone who thought the market wasn’t going to go to hyperinflation due to botting and gold selling is crazy.

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For sure man, but gdkps are used to offset the difference. With 3-4 raiding characters I can afford all my consumes and save up to get the loot I want. This is just blizzard being lazy and grand standing, pretending it solves the problem. Instead it creates a pay to play mentality

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They just didn’t want to admit the real problem is gold buying.

If you squash the buyers a few times with permanent bans but allow them to return on new accounts assuming they will eventually learn it does sort itself out.

Sadly blizzard is afraid or something. They could have made a mint on idiot buyers alone because of the loss of entire battle net account, because it just takes ONE game the players want to play associated with battlenet for them to expand; and if you murder all associated games access because of cheating you can quickly generate more money via replay of cheaters coming back.

What actually surprised me the most is that it’s less than a month and NS server is already at 4 years old WMC economy inflation.

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I don’t think it is just blizzard.

The campaign put together by botters to ban gdkp has been one of the most entertaining things to watch unfold in this community. And honestly they deserve this win with how well they executed.

Don’t underestimate how easily humans are manipulated.

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Anniversary servers are a month old.

It is not Blizzard’s fault that people are buying gold, which they obviously are. I saw a Tauren Warrior with Lionheart Helm, Cloudkeeper Legplates and Edgemaster’s Handguards. That’s around 12K+ worth of BOEs at server prices a month after launch, and I’m just gonna state the obvious; there is no way that this player leveled to 60, and grinded out 12-15k worth of gold in ~30 days. The only reasonable explanation would be if this player was MT of a serious guild and everyone was funneling them gear for speed running or something, and I doubt that was the case. If this were 2005 this Warrior would be guildless because ain’t nobody bringing a dirtbag gold buyer into their team.

Where Blizzard is to blame is in not cracking down on gold buyers and bots. We know they can see all the chat logs and trades between players, how all gold was acquired. If they wanted to they could flag trades of large sums of gold for manual review, but they do not do this in any meaningful way to stop it.

You will not get prices under control while bots are farming in massive numbers to feed big player demand for gold to buy. The people who bought gold on Era brought their behavior over to Anniversary and so RIP economy. While those items, all the expensive stuff, are selling for Era prices they will stay where they are because gold buyers are keeping the prices there because it means nothing to a habitual swiper.

The super weak argument that we have all heard in any thread about GDKP is that the mountain of gold players have comes from just being a member of the raid. Oh and some other nonsense about a bug during character copies and the other excuses. That is obviously not entirely true, guys are buying big sums of gold and dumping it into the economy.

Banning GDKP without taking serious action against gold buyers is a meaningless stop-gap from Blizzard. They have all the data they could possibly need to know that. I’m for keeping the GDKP ban, but let’s get some action on the gold buyers and bots as well.

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It even makes it worse since now legit players can’t get the cheater’s gold by being good raiders.

They are at a perma disadvantage unless they also buy gold.

This is why the gold sellers worked so hard to ban GDKPs, with GDKPs most good raiders are self-funded and don’t need to buy gold. But if you ban gdkps all a sudden way more players need to buy gold to be competitive.

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It seems like a reasonable gamble, but it’s not impossible that you happened to see someone who was lucky with drops, has good friends, legit got luck with and/or is good at making gold using the AH & professions, or even traded gold in other versions of the game, which isn’t against the EULA/ToS.

Not saying that the player in question didn’t buy gold. I’m rather stating what should be the obvious which is that we don’t know. Assuming that anyone who has a leg up over you in a video game is a cheater is an unfortunate outlook on gaming, imo. In RL, that’s sort of the exact mindset that breeds socialism as far as I can tell.

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but then what was the point in banning gdkp :expressionless:
you can’t just say “well it would be worse if we didn’t ban gdkp” because you have NO evidence to back that THEORY up.
in the real world, you would have to conduct an A / B test to conclude that this is the case. look up “null hypothesis” for more information if you are truly interested.

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I bet the fact that thousands of mage alts are making 50g an hour out of thin air has more impact on inflation than the bots you’re talking about, but you wouldn’t understand that.

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THIS! ALL OF THIS. These gold farmers are clearing 3 mil a month so i’ve seen. It’s just such a mass market. Wouldnt be surprised if blizz was getting some kick back.

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You know gdkp got banned because only the scummiest of players used it right? It was an all around scam to bleed gold from players and promoted players to play solo instead of form groups and conquer content. The whole idea behind bringing classic back was because a good portion of the population felt like the overall social aspect, of what was once wow, had disappeared and they wanted it back. By advocating for gdkp you are encouraging players to not only take advantage of other players but also encouraging players to stay away from any sense of making friends, groups, guilds and instead just save up some gold and get carried through content. It’s directly contradictory to what classic was supposed to stand for.

You clearly have no clue how ban waves work. However let’s play through that scenario of permanent banning players, as if it could actually be done. Let’s say blizzard bans the email and doesn’t let them create a new account. The only hurdle here would be 30 seconds on Gmail to create a new email account. They have no way to perma ban an players or keep them from creating new accounts. It a big reason these gold sellers keep popping up after multiple ban waves. It’s because they just create a new account. If you want the problem solved it’s easy. You dummies need to stop buying extra crap from these corporations. Stop buying the stupid mounts, the pets, the character transfers, the race changes, the tokens, and yes… The gold. The problem lies with the gamers themselves. We all gripe about these corporations bending us over backwards wanting more and more but then a good portion of gamers continue to buy all that crap. Just stop it. If the gold sellers weren’t making millions in profits they wouldn’t do it. It doesn’t matter what blizzard does as long as people are buying the sellers will continue to find ways to make money.

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I can’t even tell you how bad this backfired with the GDKP ban. The people that I know are legit rather than just running gdkps for gold now have no avenue to get gold and are instead buying gold to get by for boes mounts etc. There are just as many bots selling summons, farming mobs etc.

But people on copium are going to say it was a big help and deny the truth happening infront of their face. Sure bud those people with 5k gold worth of items like edgies cloudkeeper axe of the deepwoods/flurry axe + epic mount/lhh are legit farmers just going around mining. /s

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Flask of DW is 34g on Dreamscythe and greater fpp is a gold. Y’all smokin crack, economy is fine. If gdkp was in that flask would be 200 frickin gold.

When you buy gold for epic mount it gets deleted. When you buy gold for gdkp it gets put into circulation

Also you think I’d have this cape of saphiron of gdkp was in? Nope. And some how still can afford epic mount and consumes.

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I’m shocked the OP had 0 posts when he made this thread. Definitely not someone’s alt making their 43rd thread on the topic.

Keep seething, Swiper.

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I’m also sure everyone agreeing with it isn’t even raiding in fresh anyway, probably level 47.

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That’s cool. On Nightslayer DW is 85g+, Titans and Power are 100g+, GFPP are around 5g each.

The economy is NOT fine.

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You have people being greedy trying to get fast mount, because it’s game over for them in two weeks on your server without. Not bots, players. Epic mount is everyone on your server top prio, being a 60%'r is just as bad as being level 48.

Incorrect, the people buying gold can afford things :smiley: