All currently missing race/class combinations, ranked by how much new writing they would take

In other words you want to restrict other people’s right to enjoy their characters because you wouldn’t enjoy seeing the characters they would create if they were allowed to.

Sorry, but that’s a truly terrible stance, and the game is better off being designed with the exact opposite of you in mind.

Tell that to all the dead paladins running around.

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This game is an RPG with a story. I don’t think it’s a terrible stance to have to care about the story. Some race/class combos go against that story.

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Personally I wish I could be a tauren mage. To me, they feel like the only true “monster race” aesthetically on the horde and none of the actual horde mage options have ever interested me, so I’ve just been floating about and wishing for something I think is visually cool like naga or drakonids so I could have something to race change into.

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Neat that you’re only just bringing this up now after being called out for being racist against elves.

I know. That’s the whole premise behind the rankings.

But even at worst, they would need a lot of writing to make it work, because the fun thing about fiction is it can change .

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You put a lot more effort into than I would have.

I would have went with, Blizzard breaks their lore on a regular basis for reasons.

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Oh no! You totally called me out for being a racist against a fictional race :roll_eyes: Please don’t sick Twitter on me.

I would rather they didn’t do that writing and left the few race/class restrictions we have so the game doesn’t become World of Elfcraft.

Btw, does this only apply to others but not yourself? Because I think I was being pretty civil:

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Incorrect. It takes more than choosing a race that can be both warriors and priests and pushing them together and saying “now kith.” Priests are merely channeling/wielding the light whereas a paladin is infused with it.

Undead priests (for the most part) were canonically shadow but for gameplay reasons players were allowed to be holy/disc. When an undead priest is holy/disc, wielding/channeling the light is manageable, but quite painful for them. Were they to be a paladin, thus infused with the light, it would destroy them. So while they have been a bit inconsistent at times, as there are NPC undead paladins, I am pretty certain that the reason I mentioned is why they are not a thing forplayers

Draenei Rogue: The Rangari are composed of both Rogues and hunters, Mishka is a Draenei member of SI:7 and a Rogue

You’re not wrong

…but pirates =/= rogues. Also (again, bit inconsistent) while there are draenei rogues (and tauren maybe as you claim are within the grim totem) I imagine that even if the argument is made they they use magic to be invisible, it likely doesn’t cover the up the “clip clop” noise of the hooves. :stuck_out_tongue:

Warlock are former mages that studied into magic that other mages feared or forbade. As Tauren aren’t/cannot be mages, it wouldn’t make much sense for them to be warlocks (yes, I know this gets challenged by the fel totem in legion but being corrupted by the fel is not the same as channeling/manipulating it as warlocks do).

As far as the Pandaren, I imagine that given their fear of the sha, that they would view studying the fel as flirting with disaster and would thus not pursue it. Given their isolation from the rest of the world, they may not even have been aware of it.

An individual who is infused with the void could not also be infused with the light. It would cause said being to be ripped apart as those two forces are EXTREME opposites.
Again, for gameplay reasons, they are allowed to be holy/disc priests and I would assume it is the same deal as undead holy/disc priests (that it would be manageable but painful for them to wield/channel it)

Orcs follow the elements, not nature. This it wouldnt make much sense

Same reason as why no orc druid. They do not observe the light (or the light doesn’t observe them, or both).

Both of them were tied in with arcane magic, not nature.

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Literally impossible, read the lore, just because a undead can be a priest does not mean they can be a palidin. Priests are a conduit for the light, meaning the light flows THROUGH them. A palidin is a beacon of the light, the light flows FROM them. Undead can not be this beacon because the light is extremely harmful to undeath, and would basically result in them charing to a crisp. The way to be come a paladin literally requires said paladin to get blasted and imbued with the light, which would kill and undead.
“Muh 4th horse man” Exception not the rule.

No, this would just be a meme beyond words.

this one is absolutly 100% impossible to do, because to use fel energy as a Draenei would literally make them no longer a draenei. That is the whole point of being a draenei is the rejection of the use of fel that the rest of their people decided to take. At that point they would be eradar. Saying that some one is a draenei warlock would be like saying that some one is a vegan who eats tritip, they are mutually exclusive you cant have them both, no writing would change that with out completely breaking down the entierty of the draenei lore

Most of hte other ones, eh, would not really do or be that far fetched to be possible. Technically speaking, any race can be a deamon hunter and in the RPG, no longer canon, even had a few human demon hunters. it was just that elves usually ended up being the main ones since they lived so long they could get through all the training needed to be ready to be a demon hunter.

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Yeah if he’s talking about Botanist, they are the very opposite of a Druid. They warp nature with Arcane magic.

There are tauren Rogues in the Grimtotem and they’ve been NPCs for 16 years. He’s right that they make sense lore wise.

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It would also be incredibly stupid.
Again, there are always exceptions to the rules, that does not mean they are good idea.
A massive 400lbs+ bull with hooves a sneaking assassin does not make.

Which if you wanna point out grim totem, not the best thing to use considering lore wise they got their rear handed to them so that whole sneaking taurren move did not really work out for them.

This isn’t a case where there is one or two, or there’s a named Grimtotem Rogue that’s a duel class like Tyrande or Thrall.

It’s the Grimtotem culture to have Rogues in their ranks.

How does “getting their rear handed to them” have anything to do with the classes they have?

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This is headcanon, based on exactly one account of exactly one paladin. There is no evidence that it applies to all human paladins, but less paladins of other races.

In other words all the examples of it not working the way you claim don’t count because they don’t support your argument. That sounds resonable.

  1. They kinda are. That’s why the Bloodsail are part of the Uncrowned.

  2. So being invisible with magic makes perfect sense, but being silent with magic is just insanity?

That’s one reason to become a warlock, yes. But not every single warlock’s story is going to be the same, and the only real qualification for being a warlock is using fel and working with demons.

  1. Still no evidence that all paladins must be infused with light.

  2. High Elves are now under the void elf umbrella, and they’re not infused with anything.

We know of at least one orc who does, so you’re wrong.

They do not worship the light itself, but neither do most preists.

Confusing your magic for deity is not, in fact, a requirement to use light magic.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

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Weren’t the original warlocks orc shamans that were tempted into switching over?

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Ehhhh its kinda wishy washy on who the first were to dip into fel use. Because if you wanna get technical, on azeroth the first were mages, via the night elf society with the well of eternity.

On Dreanor it was shamans. So 6 to some half dozen to another.

That’s true; I was thinking in terms of franchise appearance and forgot to mention that.

Thats fair, i mean at the end of the day though, at the end of the day though warlock does not really matter how you get there its about just using fel at that point so.

There are several undead paladins in lore who would disagree with you.

No one in canon does it say this.

It’s already been stated explicitly that using the light does not damage the undead. It hurts, but it’s purely a painful sensation, not actual damage.

The way one human in one book became a paladin required said paladin to be blasted an imbued with the light.

There’s no evidence that this even applied to all human paladins, much less other orders.

The thing about exceptions is that their very existence challenges the rule. If something works differently than it normally would, there’s a reason for that and replicating that reason will replicate the results.

If it can happen in spite of how you think things work, you’re wrong about how things work.

See, that’s not really a reason to not do it.

It would take some work, but this is a work of fiction. There’s literally nothing that’s impossible.

And Thornspeakers are even more opposite to a druid.

Classes aren’t real. If you can throw nature at people you’re a druid, regardless of how much a Night elf would approve.

You know as well as I do, if there’s a racial-based advantage to be had, it will meta immediately.

if Blizz hadn’t rewritten the dwarf racial just for CN mobs, most guild’s primary raid teams would have been mostly dwarves for example.

That’s the only reasonable explanation I can muster as to why we don’t have more choices than we do.

Other than the lore issues…which seem to matter, then not matter, then matter, then not, then do, then…based solely on the current development narrative.

SWTOR has race/class restrictions.
So does EverQuest

Does ESO, GW2 or FF let you be any class?

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