All Classes should be available for All Races

But it also doesn’t make sense that there’s this all-powerful nothing following the NPCs around like a neglected puppy. If Thrall’s gonna get the credit anyway, then he can do the 25-man raid on his own, I don’t need to suffer through hours of wipes and drama.

That’s what I’m talking about with a detachment to the world at large. If I can’t save the world or influence it, why the hell do I care when it’s endagered beyond having a chore on my taskbar?

exactly the lore us rewritten everytime they wanna make a new book to sell.

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That is what happens when you ret-con a game and as shadina put it “narratively and adjust the story because I exist.”

Sure it does. The player character doesn’t exist. You are the nameless ex machina for why the world keeps spinning and then in novels, you are conveniently written away in favor of bland titles and powerful names we already know.

Hell, according to official lore sources, the horde didn’t even help kill the lich king. We got pushed out. You think the pc means something? If you’re horde you canonically weren’t even there when Arthas fell!

It is what it is.

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Then it definitely doesn’t matter what class the PC plays.

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I’d love to see what the hearthstone team would come up with for a wow expansion.

I feel like it would be the best thing ever.

That’s the story as it’s written right now. Did YOU beat the Lich King? Apparently not. Did YOU beat Illidan in TBC? Kil’jaeden? Apparently not, even though I do remember spending hours on the fight and surviving to loot. Half the Horde’s in-game victories are because of me, and Thrall’s gonna scoop MY credit?

I cannot see how this is interesting. It’s like playing a game with your favorite characters, but then a cutscene starts after dropping the final boss and an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SET of characters kick up and do the thing you worked so hard to do! Then congratulate each other, roll credits. The hell was I doing, buying time for Johnny-Come-Lately to decide to fire the Solution Beam?

And yeah, if the PC doesn’t exist, then I want to at least get to tell my story the way I want it. Since I don’t matter, me being a taboo race/class also doesn’t matter.

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Dude, mecha Jaraxxus writes itself, that would be so goofy and fun.

Also I simp for Mean Streets of Gadgetzan.

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Then there should be a reason. Why does this sudden military force of demon devouring heart draining fools suddenly train this tiny fox who will never survive?

Like I said, I don’t care. But there needs to be justification. Explanations. If you want these things so bad, you should hit up the suggestions box in game and actually provide context and reasoning beyond Tauren bro went to school and learned magic (especially because Tauren mage already confirmed).

Maybe blizz will listen.

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Why? Why does a non-entity need to be justified. Either I don’t matter and thus my character doesn’t matter, or I DO matter and should be able to make an impact on the world. It can’t be both!

We do have murloc DH’s in WoW.

There is Murkidan and Murgulis

And there are already Meta models

I agree though it would be neat to see what Hearthstone and HOTS devs could come up with.

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I could just see like fun and goofy stories and playing up the camp and kind of having the game take itself seriously but not take itself seriously at the same time. I would love if there was a character that would lean on the fourth wall, like a Deadpool style character but slightly more appropriate for all audiences. This type of thing would work great for a bronze dragon, a very old bronze dragon who is traumatized and seen some things, and notices the patterns of the universe and the cyclic things. And questions them rhetorically outloud to no one… While looking straight at the player’s camera.

My character is on the edge of breaking the fourth wall. Like he has figured out that pretty much every world ending threat for the last 20ish years had happened on a Tuesday. Also scratching his head at things that make no sense narratively, “So let me get this straight, we just got stabbed in the planet and now we’re going to go fight the Alliance instead of trying to save the world because it’s a day that ends in y?”

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Why not, you’ve used the same reasoning earlier where you attempt to make two “antonyms” exist simultaneously.

As I stated in my initial post on the other thread you spammed, it is irrelevant, all class/all races are already going to be forced into the game.

Because numerically, there’s more than one.

In other words, if we’re suddenly to see multitudes of fox demon boys and girls running around; there must be an ingame explanation for it.

This isn’t about just you. Just you isn’t the only factor here. There are other people too and the world still has people within it.

This me me me me nonsense feels totally self centered and completely lacking involving any other perspective.

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So should we cull 30-40-50% of the current DH playerbase? Because we need to bake in failure for DH character creation after all. It has to ‘mean something’.

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I really want them to utilize the world of Azeroth more so we can have stories like this. We need so many more recurring characters in this game that aren’t tied to just factions and are just all around fun or mysterious.

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If nothing matters, then there isn’t a point in pursuing what you’re suggesting, as it too wouldn’t matter.

That’s a straw man and irrelevant to the idea of fox people or non elf demon hunters running around. The reason it’s a straw man is because we know elves were trained by Illidan and a success which means the failure rate is implied through narrative.

We have zero context for the alternative. Provide sanctioned context in game with an actual reason and thus it can work.

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I can just see getting DC’ed mid key and finding that my character had been deleted because they are now culled.

OK. Because the Legion is gone, disable any new DH creation after DF launches.

After all, it’d be wrong to subject new people to such a horrific fate when there’s no threat on the horizon.