Post after post complaining about PVP premades. Is unplayable! Every single epic bg is the same. A community using BG commander to synchronize queue. Same for blitz, post after post and nobody does anything about it.
This is unplayable. Why wait until pvp is completely dead to then come out and give some speech about how you care and start making changes left and right 1 week before the expansion is over?
Please…. Act now.
Is it both sides or just mainly one Faction?
They still won’t punish groups for playing group content.
Both…. Communities are everywhere. Is unplayable unless you join one. Just did 3 back to back epic bg and it was against a premade every time. I don’t mind loosing but dam…. Is too much. Extremely discouraging.
I got 1800 on blitz with my enh shaman and quit after that. Atrocity of an experience and will never do it again. Come to find out, epic bg are even worse with premade.
If they won’t do anything fine. Eventually I’ll just move on I guess.
I still don’t understand the problem. I vaguely remember being encouraged to pre form pvp groups for battlegrounds many years ago.
Epic BG 40v40 premade vs premade. It’s true. It’s fun, you should try it.
If you like raiding, you should like raiding another raid.
Allow Raids to queue Epic BG’s.
Make your own/join another premade then? BGs are probably the worst PvP content in the game minus a few certain maps here and there. Go play Solo Shuffle instead.
This isn’t group play…. Is ppl using addon to help make easier to synchronize queue for a bg. Is not supposed to happen like this. Max is 5, not an entire raid.
Do you mean addon?
Either way, it doesn’t matter. Blizzard will still not punish groups for doing group content.
Groups grouping to get an advantage over randoms in group content. 
You can remedy this OP no need to quit just join.
Yes sorry, is called bg commander. Basically you join a raid and it gives the leader control when the queue pops. Lets you know how many in the raid got the queue, if to accept for everyone or not.
So why not join them if they’re “everywhere”? They can’t be that selective if there’s so many of them.
Because this isn’t supposed to be allowed. Why do something wrong because everyone else is doing it? Do you know how detrimental this is for new players who have no clue what a community is or an epic bg?
I’m not going to join and take part on something that shouldn’t be allowed. I’ll quit eventually if that’s the case. This isn’t the only game on earth and if push comes to shove, PvP is garbage and a side thing anyways.
No. I dont think they will. They never have. Sucks to be that way but it is that way. It ruins PvP in BGs by using an addon to circumvent the system that was put in place to make it be random groupings. These people are incapable of doing RBGs and lack any skill whatsoever so they have to do premades in order to get cheap wins because they don’t know how to get wins by playing any other way.
These people aren’t doing RBGs, they are incapable of it, instead they use this addon which forces queues to work in a way they were not intended to.
You wanna run a premade in The War Within? Run an RBG. Don’t do it in a regular battleground.
Back in BC, myself and the guild would queue at the AV Battlemasters all the time.
I can’t remember what we did to get in the same raid but it worked most of the time, normally about 20 of us give or take.
All of us on Vent and that’s all she wrote.
I would tank or I would heal the tank normally, everyone mostly just fell in line and enjoyed the fast win.
It sometimes went south though and w’ed end up in a turtle, which I loved as I was farming hk’s back then for titles.
The ideal team in an Epic BG is a pre-made large raid, which will wreck you if you’re just pugging. it should not be a surprise this happens more now, that’s the modern gamer for you.
Blizzard are not going to action people for forming a group and doing group content.
Epic BGs have been worthless to play for years Blizzard isn’t going to bother to fix it all they have to do is treat epics/randoms like rated mix the teams and it becomes harder to get your entire premade on one side
Pvp peaked in MoP/WoD. Then Ion took over. From when I joined in BC to WoD I spent a ridiculous amount of time just doing random BGs. I don’t even have a character with a full pvp set this expansion. It’s not worth it anymore.
i see no problem with premades.
If the rando groups would communicate better n work as a team, it wouldn’t make a difference if the other team was premade.
I agree, remove pvp.
Randoms have to communicate and strategize by typing in chat, with varying levels of skill, experience, and gear as their team isn’t vetted.
A pre-made can organize before they enter and change plans on the fly in Discord, pick and choose who they let into the group.
It’s pretty obvious why the pre-made has an advantage and will always have an advantage. They should be in rated BGs, not random BGs, but Blizzard isn’t going to change anything.