AH addons, Good for Gold Sellers, Bad for Buyers

This does not look like a “simple” AH addon. It does a tremendous amount of work. It essentially (as you use it) automates pretty much everything from pricing to stacking. How is this legal in classic. I understand that yes there was AH addons in classic, but where they this extensive?

Does this add on FORCE people to use it in order to use the AH? I would say yes because you would have to use it in order to compete in the economy of the realm, in fast time. Humans by themselves could not do this even at a fraction of the rate that this AH add on could do. Ban it.

Description

Auctioneer Suite
https://addonswow.com/auctioneer

Auctioneer Suite provides you with the tools and data necessary to make those difficult auctioning decisions with ease. From purchasing to posting, the Auctioneer Suite provides time-tested tools to allow you more time to actually play your characters or play the market. As you will soon discover, it is much more than a simple “Auctioning AddOn”, the Auctioneer Suite also shows in-depth information for all game items, such as those used in quests or recipes, enchanting, milling, prospecting and more.

Numerous other AddOns will also use the Auctioneer statistics you gather via scanning. This is especially true for many of the popular crafting AddOns, such as Little Sparky’s Workshop, GnomeWorks, and Skillet.

Auctioneer Suite Details

The Auctioneer Suite contains Auctioneer, all of its modules, BeanCounter, Enchantrix and Enchantrix Barker, and Informant to help provide a comprehensive view of item data, whether at the Auction House or out questing. Some highlights are:
Appraiser

An intuitive auction posting frame.

Remembers your preferences for bid/buyout prices, stack sizes, and number of listings to post per item.
Allows queuing of auctions, so you can instruct it to list hundreds of auctions at a time. Note that Blizzard introduced a hardware event requirement to confirm each posting, but, with Appraiser's Batch Posting, you reduce the total clicks from two per auction, to one.
Allows you to specify the value price of your choice and remembers your selection
Displays competing listings, the age of the data, and allows you to sort these listings and refresh them easily.
Provides a scrollable list of all auctionable items in your bags; allowing you to quickly post all of your goods.
Provides a "Match Competition" setting which will automatically undercut your competition when posting auctions, within your parameters
Provides the ability to change to a "Simple" view; a bit like the Auctioneer Classic posting interface.
Allows you to change column width by Right-Clicking and dragging to the column width of your choice.
Allows you to post multiple auctions with the single click of the Batch Post button.
    Alt+Left-Click == Refresh Pricing of all Batch Postable Items.
    Shift+Left-Click == Trial or List Posting. Does not actually queue any items to post but prints the exact pricing that will be used on the Auction House in an easily readable format in the "chat window". This allows a user to verify their settings and make adjustments if necessary.
    Ctrl+Shft+Alt+Left-Click == Queue all items that have the "Allow Batch Posting" checkbox selected (located at the top of the item information pane).

CompactUI

An alternative to the standard auction browsing interface.

Displays more auctions per page
Displays more data per auction
Allows you to change column width by Right-Clicking in the column heading and dragging left or right to resize the column to your liking
Provides a percentage comparison with the Market Value Statistic of your choice
Allows auctions to be color coded by price level
Allows multiple sorting options not available on the standard interface

Statistic Modules

There are a variety of fully customizable statistic modules included with Auctioneer that can provide a variety of pricing information- all based upon your needs.

"Market" – a custom designed formula that merges the various statistics into a usable price. This is the default setting and is highly recommended.
Auc-Stat-Histogram – Returns Median and IQR values, based upon a Histogram of pricing data. Essentially, a median value, based upon all prices ever seen; no data is ever discarded.
Auc-Stat-iLevel – Statistics modules that groups all items of same rarity, type, and iLevel together (e.g. all green weapons of iLevel 180). Useful for pricing random "of the …" items.
Auc-Stat-Purchased – Statistics module that tries to infer purchase prices based on items disappearing before they could have expired. (Requires more frequent scanning of the AH)
Auc-Stat-Sales – Uses data from BeanCounter to display historical statistics on actual purchase and sale prices. Note that this statistic is installed along with BeanCounter, and cannot be installed separately.
Auc-Stat-Simple – Statistics module that performs simple averaging of data, converted daily to exponential moving averages of the orders 3, 7 and 14.
Auc-Stat-StdDev – Statistics module that keeps the last 100 price points for an item and performs a standard deviation on the data list to exclude outliers from the sample space and provide a normalized mean.
Auc-Stat-WOWEcon – Statistics module that uses the WOWEcon AddOn's data (if separately installed) to provide the price to other Auctioneer modules.
Any other stat module that you or others wish to create can be easily added to auctioneer functionality!

SearchUI

An Auctioneer Utility that prompts you when it sees auctions that fit your criteria for buying and, or, bidding.

Uses Searchers that you can customize for various desired deals such as:
    Resale – Prompts you for deals based on discount from the market value, AH fee, and expected relistings
    Disenchant – Prompts you for deals based on disenchanting armor and weapons
    Prospecting – Prompts you for jewelcrafting deals from prospecting ores
    Vendor – Prompts you for auctions listed below vendor sell price
The "RealTimeSearch" will continually reload the first and last page of the AH, within reason, as per your configuration, to find the newest bargains and auctions that are just about to come to an end. Both great times to find some amazing deals.
Piggybacks on your AH scans if allowed to do so

BeanCounter

An associated addon that tracks your bid, postings, and mail to help you determine your overall and item-specific profitability.

Creates journal entries when you bid, buy, post, or retrieve AH mail.
Provides a searchable interface that can display all activity or only certain items
Allows you to change column width by Left-Click and dragging the column to the size of your liking

Enchantrix

Enchantrix displays values for disenchanting, milling, and prospecting; plus suggested values for selling enchants. Enchantrix can also automate disenchanting, milling and prospecting. Some baseline pricing is built in, but Enchantrix also uses values from Auctioneer to provide up-to-date prices for your server/faction. Enchantrix also includes controls to let you customize the pricing by enchant material (fixed prices and weighting).
Informant

Informant displays additional information about items in their tooltips: buy price; sell price; item level; what quests, classes or professions use the item; the value of the item produced by a recipe; etc. Informant can also tell you what vendors sell a given item.
What Can Auctioneer Do to Help Me?

Once a user moves to the Auction House (AH) and beyond just buying and selling from/to vendors, the whole game changes. No longer is the user dealing with the static prices of the vendor to support their character’s income. We are now dealing with the fluid and hectic nature of a dog-eat-dog market economy.

In such an economy, which is in a constant state of flux, it can be difficult to select the correct pricing points for your item at the AH. Sometimes, the prices and value of your items can be wildly different compared to the vendor price due to many factors, the value of items that can be made from your item, the use of a particular item in a quest, the suitability of a particular weapon or armor to specific classes, and the disenchantability of an item to enchanters.

Primarily, the driving factor of the price fluctuations, as in the real world is supply versus demand. When supply is high, but demand is low, competition drives the prices down, and conversely then supply is low, but demand is high, the market is driven into a sellers market.

The Auctioneer Suite can help you alleviate this lack of market knowledge over time by watching the market evolve.

When you go to the Auction House (AH) for the first time after installing Auctioneer, you will see a row of 3 buttons along the top of the main “Browse” frame, click the “play” button to begin your first scan of the entire AH. Auctioneer will begin recording statistics for every item it finds, including the bid, buyout, and more.

Once the market analysis has completed, you will notice additional information about the items in the tooltips when you mouse over them.
What happens when you go to sell items via the Auction House?

If auctioneer has enough data, when you try to put an auction up for sale, it will attempt to provide you with intelligent pricing points based upon the market data it has accumulated through scanning.

When you select an item in the full or simple “Appraiser” frame, Auctioneer will suggest a minimum price, a buyout price and display relevant data about it’s decision making process in the right, receipt window, including how it has arrived at its prices.

When you place an item in the SimpleAuction, “Post” frame, Auctioneer will suggest a minimum bid, a buyout price, and display relevant data, including the deposit and more.
Happy Auctioneering!!

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Greedy people must greed. Gold sellers are starting to spam channels now with websites. Sad days. I wish this kind of thing could be stopped before it becomes so rampant that Blizzard can not do anything about it.

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Case in point:

This type of addons should be banned.

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I agree, auction addons with this level of sophistication are a problem; either you download it yourself and have an unfair advantage over normal players or you get beat out on the AH by the addon users. There’s a line between some extra, fun QoL stuff that addons provide and bringing rocks to a water balloon fight. This kinda crosses that line.

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I feel it should be reported and banned. It’s botting.

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really? sounds like YOU don’t want to put in the time to scan the AH multiple times a day and manage min/max pricing options, etc so no one else should be able to prioritize money-making as a goal in WoW because YOU don’t want to.

get over yourself.

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Except you arent doing that, the addon is

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It’s funny how obvious it is that none of you complainers have ever owned a business. Get with the times. You wanna win in the market? Use analytics. It’s not botting if YOU make the choice to sell or buy at the end of the day. That’s why it’s called the “free” market. It’s all based on your choice.

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I agree with OP, kinda lame having to search though pages and pages of stacks of one just to find what I’m actually looking for. One add-on should not be bogging down the AH for people who don’t use it. Yes, we could ALL get it, but there’s plenty who don’t want it and oppose these add-ons being in classic. Look at the forums.

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This addon existed in vanilla and every subsequent expansion. Its functionality has remained virtually identical the entire time. It didn’t “ruin the economy” then and it won’t now.

As a heavy trader in every expansion I’ve used Auctioneer religiously for years. If you believe that AH addons “do all the work for you” then you are egregiously ignorant. It can take hours of work per day to maintain a multiple trade alt setup even with the time saved by addons.

AH addons also have a tendency to be fooled by price manipulation and feed you bad data. Being able to recognise this is not something an inexperienced user can do. Deciding when and where to reset price data on an item requires knowledge. It’s NOT plug-and-play.

The “advantage over others” gained by AH income is entirely a product of a player’s knowledge, experience and hard WORK. If you’re not willing to put that in, you don’t deserve to have the same amount of gold as I do.

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NOW people decide to moan and whine about auction addons? I’ve literally been using one since 2005…

…Get with the times y’all. This isn’t anything new.

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This addon has been around since WoW originally came out. The same addon. It has become a little more simple to use but for the most part the features have not changed. you could pretty much everything you can do now back in 2005-2007.

Although it does have a lot of functionality, it can’t do things on it’s own. You are the one doing the work, it just makes it a bit easier. It also adds things like prices to items that it’s seen in the past so that you know how much things are worth. It’s a major quality of life addon that would just be silly not use.

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