Since I know it’s not going to make its way here through official channels.
https://x.com/AggrendWoW/status/1840463831212159272
Want to take a moment to remind folks of this: (link to Code of Conduct)
Getting into BGs to intentionally lose or throw games is against the Code of Conduct and advertising such in LFG/Trade/General chats is as well. Reporting people for trying to play the game normally is also very much against he CoC and is just generally awful behavior.
We’ll look at the rewards on Monday and work on some adjustments but for now, seriously, please just don’t do this. You are likely to regret it.
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Thing is, Alliance are fighting in AB, just not capping. The devs cant punish that.
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More likely, the devs will be looking into reports regarding people advertising “lose quick and get your honor cap” premades in LFG/Trade/General, as well as people who said they were reporting other players for capping bases in AB chat.
I agree that it’s unlikely Blizzard will ban anyone who just kept their heads down and fought Horde while ignoring objectives, but from the sound of Aggrend’s tweet, they’re planning to punish anyone who advocated for it and supported it in the various in-game chats, or who harassed and verbally abused anyone who was trying to play the objectives in in-game chats.
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Que the flood of cognitive dissonance responses:
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Good luck with that one. These teams are still reporting players actively capping nodes. Which is against the contract
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I like seeing that this attitude hasn’t changed from when they gave 8 day suspensions to people for doing something similar around the TBCC release, even though this has been mentioned and twisted around as irrelevant.
Thanks for posting this.
Yes people will keep saying “this isn’t the same as afking” or “this is all the fault of shammies” or “it’s the meta!” and especially that disgusting “if the rest of your team wants to just deathball and you cap flags you are griefing your team” but that message shows the opinion of Blizzard and if people get suspensions it’s 100% on them.
It’s nice to see people who think that the rules don’t apply to them get punished.
If they do instead suspend people for participating who were falsely reported then that’s another story though so hopefully they do it properly.
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Not grabbing objectives isn’t against the code of conduct. Just fighting for honor kills is perfectly within it. This is a design issue. Players are just playing the best way the design lays out.
If they created objectives that literally deducted honor from you, I also wouldn’t blame the players for not grabbing them. It would be a ridiculous design.
But that’s effectively what we have now. If you grab the objectives, you are, as alliance, cutting off hundreds of thousands of honor from your weekly total.
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Yet you still have these teams, afk or not, reporting players capping nodes. That falls under false reports
And they do enforce false reporting. There was a guild on that deviate delight server who were mass reporting players for “breaking community rules”, and blizzard banned every one of them (the reportees)
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Yes, reporting players for not playing the way that you prefer is misuse of the report system.
But if players just want to play for hks, that’s not a problem.
It also wouldn’t be a violation of the code of conduct to just make kill teams who just want to go into BGs to rack up HKs.
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he did say he will be reviewing the reward system, best they can do is revert it and add honor bonuses to objective “actions”
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Yes the best thing Blizzard can do is just fix their awful design here instead of blaming the players and threatening them for playing the course that they designed in the most efficient manner the design dictates.
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Advertising losing on purpose in the global chat channels and threatening to report/reporting players for trying to play objectives in the BG definitely is against the Code of Conduct though.
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There is a difference between just rolling into a bg trying to get HKs and actively spamming LFG for intentional loses and reporting players who cap nodes.
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Yeah I would agree that advertising to lose is something that players shouldn’t be doing. Also reporting players for not playing the way that you prefer, even if it’s more efficient. This goes both ways. If a player is just going for honor kills they shouldn’t be reported either.
That said, if teams want to get together to just do honor kills because hinor kill games are the best way to rack up honor, then they should be allowed to do that. And it does not violate any codes of conduct.
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that’s their solution? they’re gonna try to police player behavior instead of just fixing their dumb incentive structure? lol
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Really rubs me the wrong way that he’s out there threatening people instead of just saying that they’re going to fix the ridiculous design they put out there.
I mean I understand telling people not to report others for not liking their play style, but this is a veiled threat about purposely skipping over objectives that effectively deduct honor from your weekly total.
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It does frustrate me that it took them nearly a week to acknowledge this issue tbh.
This has been going on since Tuesday, even before they hotfixed the honor turn in on Wednesday to be 7500 up from 3750. And only now on Sunday do we get a dev response? And that dev response is “we’ll look into fixing things tomorrow maybe, oh and in the meantime, stop because we’re gonna start banning you”
feelsbadman, but PvP is WoW’s mini-game and not the priority at the end of the day. Always has been, always will be.
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Its a shame because it can actually be made to combat raidlogging very easily
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This does open the door to some hilarity however. Perhaps teams only recruit off meta specs that just dinged 60. People that just have no chance of winning fights. Making awful calls to just hit BS over and over, but single file lol
You can’t really police players playing badly. They just need to fix the design and keep it about that.
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