I normally complain about the devs but - I’ve got to hand it to them, I love this. Finally throwing Alliance a bone. Haven’t had as much fun as I did slaughtering complacent substandard PVPing horde with a group of bloodthristy alliance pvpers … as I did while doing this quest.
End of our run - there were at least 2 dozen assassins running around + horde just running away. How many horde came to kill us? None. There was no horde world questing going on in Maldraxxus yesterday.
It was glorious.
<3 The better pvp faction. Alliance doesn’t need racial crutches and overwhelming numbers to wreck the horde.
Keep Against Overwhelming Odds coming, devs. Finally, doing something right for the faction imabalance. Give us more rewards for the overwhelming grief (read: horde) we need to deal with.
You do know AOO has been a thing since last Xpac right?
The fact that AOO exist and Ally have been whining about Horde numbers say otherwise. Not to mention Ally have some of the best racials in the game.
Devs aren’t just handing AOO out for the sake of it. The balance has to be at a certain threshold for it to be activated. So if Ally keep turning WM off then you’ll continue to get AOO.
AOO has definitely brought the Alliance to pretty much equal grounds in terms of Warmode participation, compared to the lopsided system that it was during its introduction in BFA. So in that sense, it’s been a huge success. But Horde still has the larger player base though, so once AOO comes and goes, the more populated faction is still having a better time. Albeit we don’t fight to complete a hand-out quest, we fight for the fun of what was once WPVP (or PVP in general). Getting Horde players to band together to fight back is not something the players of that faction are really keen on doing, though, so naturally Horde players are going to scramble and avoid fighting or questing when they see a mass of the opposite faction pull up to wreck them. Once Horde had an organized group, the Ally zerg groups were easily taken care of. (See Shadowblades video to see how semi-organized Horde groups take care of Alliance trash.)
It’s also rather weird to see you reference an Alliance only PVP quest as “end of our run,” as if it’s like a timed objective like M+ or some activity that everyone has access to compete in, or that you don’t have an entire week to complete, or something. I can only assume that you’re someone who plays more LoL or another game more than you do WoW because that word choice is laughable.
Also:
The only place that Alliance is truly the better PVP faction is in high-end arena.
TLDR: Alliance player experiencing AOO for the first time makes a forum post gloating about it. /clap
Yes Mr. Ruin Gaming Overlord, I am bragging about beating zerg groups as a zerg group, in a thread by a player bragging about being in a zerg group. But, that’s because that’s all Horde ever is, are random players who decided they wanted to actually group up and dominate, instead of being nonchalant and somewhat prideful, which keeps them separated to get picked off 1 by 1. Resulting in garbo posts like the one made by OP.
Shadowblades created the most organized group I have yet to see for Horde in Warmode (including BFA), which is really not saying much because it was just people simply doing exactly this:
The man promoted his stream on his stream, as anyone on Twitch would do. And that’s the extent of organization there is to “brag about.”
Ruin Gaming, on the other hand, absolutely “ruined” Battle for Nazjatar and an entire zone for the duration of just so y’all could get some extra virtual currencies. And I see you guys massing out there in the SL zones too, making it impossible for players to just quest or level, which we’re usually met with “Well Horde deserve all of it because of BFA!”
Cryptids League does RBGs now, they’re taking a break from the WPVP shenanigans.
ED guilds fight ED guilds, and usually don’t like outsiders.
It’s not a matter of avoidance, but rather that there just aren’t any active Alliance WPVP guilds atm.
(Believe me, as someone who’s personally gone out of my way to hunt down certain guilds, I have a pretty good understanding of who’s active and who’s not. Right now, organized Alliance WPVP just doesn’t exist.)
RG isn’t a PVP guild. I’ve kept an eye on em from time to time (since I try to gauge who’s active and who’s not), and they just do things like rare farming. No PVP, just farming a bunch of rares.
They’re a non-threat.
I wasn’t aware the forums were the place to advertise personal Twitch streams.
I wasn’t aware helping people out and getting their weekly conquest caps done was “ruining” something. Apparently the only people who had a problem with it were Horde, who would usually roll over any phase we weren’t in.
Nah, we are extremely aware that most of said ED guilds and others avoid picking on organized groups of players, and just go around attacking random shards of alliance. There’s zero reason you would be streaming actively otherwise.
We do guild rbgs, nightly epic bgs, we do stealth squads, we do pretty much anything there is to do related to pvp or wpvp, but sure I guess all those Horde we murdered last night don’t count as wpvp targets or pvp because some rando on the forums says so.
Okay, really. The server lag that would occur lol. Extremely aggravating. I’m not sure what you meant by roll over? But, that’s the shard system they’ve got going on here, if that’s how you meant it. I couldn’t just mosie on over to a different shard to go do things. I just don’t want the same happening in Shadowlands, really.
