After 20 Years Its Finally Time: Nerf Horde Racials

Horde racials are hideously overpowered.

This simple statement has remained indisputably true through every iteration of classic WoW; from vanilla retail, to p-servers, to Classic WoW 2019. It has remained a blemish on Classic WoWs reputation, avoiding a reckoning for nearly 20 years.

Unable to defend racial balance on its own merits, horde players typically justified the imbalance by pointing to the strengths alliance has because of paladins and the generally superior utility they provide compared to Shaman, an argument that had some merit to it…until now, with SoD.

With SoD most unique paladin and shaman utility has been spread cross-faction, leaving the overpowered state of horde racials a glaring and indefensible problem with faction balance.

Blizzard should take the opportunity this seasonal server has provided and experiment with ideas on how to balance horde racials. WoTF is by far the most broken, but Orc racials and even Warstomp need to be heavily altered and even redesigned. Buffs to Alliance racials should be considered as well.

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Human racials are better than all other racials in the game combined, honestly.

If you’re playing Alliance and you’re not a human, you’re doing it wrong.

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WOTF isn’t even the most broken Racial on the Horde, Hardiness is.

and Escape Artist and Stoneform are okay?

seems good.

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Can’t hear you over the faction lock.

If Horde were as OP as you say, we’d be the locked faction.

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Alliance racials are underrated

Stoneform: become basically immune to a rogues blind and any poisons, and a warriors bleed. Probably as op as wotf is

Sword specialization for humans, yes ill take a free 5 weapon skill on the best weapon type for warriors and rogues in the game

Escape artist: best racial for pvp warriors hands down. Only a minute cd in this iteration. Great for wsg flag carrying.

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So not choosing white bread when rye is available is wrong? Human is boring. I’ll take a lesser racial…

Dunno what you’re huffin’, but my Seal of Justice and Hammer of Justice is still pretty effective against an orc; War Stomp just gives me a chance to scratch my smooth belly; WotF is pretty dope, but a lot of undead players pop it as soon as they get Feared by a lock, who proceeds to just Fear them again; and I don’t even see people using Berserking in PvP, really.

If you want to nerf Horde racials and buff Alliance racials that badly, knock some points off tauren’s herbalism racial and give dwarves a +5 mining or blacksmithing racial. (Seriously, what kind of world is Azeroth where gnomes get +15 to engineering, but dwarves get zero bonus to mining or BS?)

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how about no or better yet no racials at all

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They’re fine.

By the way, this is a video game. Chill out.

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No, that is not true at all. Sword/Mace specialization provides a modest boon for rogues and warriors in pve but thats it. And the SoD devs have stated explicitly that they will not let Weapon Racial skills be something anyone has to worry about during the season. Perception is garbage, Human spirit is a small niche bonus for priests and the rep bonus has no balance implications whatsoever.

Hardiness is super busted sure, but I still think WoTF is worse. WotF is not only strong in 1v1, but its amazing in group pvp to break CC on demand, while hardiness has the RNG limit.

And you are right, Escape Artist and Stoneform are simply OK.

lmao

Listen alliance racials aren’t totally useless sure, but they are very modest and situational in terms of their strength, which is probably what racials should be like tbh. As nifty as Stoneform is against Rogues it not even in the same universe as WotF or Hardiness (hardiness is way better if you want to counter rogues anyway !)

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Nice bait sock puppet thread going on here. Got some bites too.

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How about no. Retail is that way. Go play it if you want to see the game ruined

season of discovering every reason you stacked ally is gone

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Alliance has a numbers advantage, which is good enough

I agree with you that WOTF and Hardiness are busted but saying War Stomp is OP is a bit nuts don’t you think? If anything War Stomp needs love considering they just gave a stun break trinket to every class in the game. Where previously you had an up against rogue, mage, warlocks. They can now just break out of that stun with a trinket. I would honestly consider giving War Stomp its own category of DR so it doesn’t interfere with grenades. Rogues have that with CS KS so why not?

Next season could be Pandaria based and make everyone be a panda with no faction. Then nobody can complain about racials or faction balance.

Passing out all Paladin class utility cross-faction ? All cool this is classic+

Balancing OP horde racials ? RETAIL RETAIL RETAIL !!!

I agree with you that Warstomp is not in the same league of absurdity as WotF and hardiness but idk its still better than all alliance PvP racials. As far as I’m aware its the only AoE stun in the game in classic, which says something. I could live with it I suppose.

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10/10 troll post. Just play horde then.

Not trolling, just objective reality. Horde racials are OP. They should be nerfed.

I never in a million years thought I would see someone complain about racials in a Classic WoW channel. Wild times we live in. Racials are so low on the totem pole of things to actually worry about or care (even in PvP) in Classic WoW.

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