Afraid for future of wow

I doubt I will ever quit this game , there will be always something that keeps me playing in this game, but the annoyances are getting more visible, like mosquitoes when you forget to close you rent next to river at night.

New dev team did amazing job in creating new zones , but the mindset and politics, yes , politics, behind all of it it’s just frustrating.

I was watching that developer insight and without spoiling to much, or maybe nothing at all, how they see this game and what people work on this patch , I’m afraid what will happen in next expansions. I’m just afraid that these new devs , who don’t have “frat boy” personality, will take this game to lvl that won’t be world of Warcraft. I like the game better when we had devs with “frat boy” attitude, but this new generation and streamers are ruining everything together with these new devs who are open minded

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I wanna keep playing but it’s gonna be a long ride until the next expansion so I’m probably gonna start looking at other mmos

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I understand you completely. Current dev team has no clue about lore, and what is this game at first place. They will make mix match of FF , hello kitty, farm islands and call it world of Warcraft

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You don’t only have to play WoW as a fyi.

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I try not to stack monthly subscriptions you know what I’m sayin

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Okay.

Okay.

What specific “politics” are you frustrated by?

What do you even mean by that?

It is a little jarring to me every time a person uses a term like “open minded” with a negative connotation.

So… you’d rather people be close minded?

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The only politics I see in game are those they think might effect the bottom line. The accountants are the guys at the top. They listen to the gaming shrinks analyzing the data and the sacred counsel of three points the way.

:cookie:

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It’s not like the devs under the frat boy culture were doing that amazing either. The firings because of the lawsuit are only recent, so that frat boy culture team is still responsible for Battle for Azeroth and a good chunk of Shadowlands.

There’s far too much abusive working conditions in the gaming industry as a whole, and far too many people willing to handwave that away because they like the games being made by those companies.

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I’m afraid for WoW’s future too.

I’m pretty disappointed by what I saw today, but maybe not for the same reason others are.

I made a post yesterday saying that for me personally, I was having fun in the game. I stand by that. But I’m just one player and a confirmed casual one.

I’ll be playing in 9.2, I have no doubt. And in all honesty I suspect I personally will probably enjoy myself. Casually. But for those who are unhappy with this game in its current state… this patch isn’t going to change many minds, if any at all.

When I heard that we were going to “Reality’s End”, I was hoping to see something pretty mind-blowing. Crazy, M.C. Escher-like stuff. Dungeons where we are walking on the ceiling. Dungeons with layouts that violate the laws of space and time. All kinds of crazy things that one might expect to see in someplace called “Reality’s End”.

Then when I heard that this was supposedly the place where all of reality was created, it seemed like we might see a place with elements of many or all of previous WoW areas - say, a dungeon where one second we are in The Barrens, the next second we are in Northrend, the next we are in Hellfire Peninsula, etc.

But did we get these things? We did not. We basically got a mashup of Nagrand and Korthia. It is pretty, on it’s own merits? Sure. But I was hoping for so much more and I didn’t get it.

I know I’m sounding entitled here but… consider that 2021 on the whole has been an absolute avalanche of negative PR for WoW and Blizzard as a whole. I don’t need to recap all that, everyone reading this knows this perfectly well.

I don’t know when this patch is going live but even if it’s early 2022 (which seems likely), this could have been a way for WoW to end 2021 on at least a high note of anticipation and excitement for the players. No patch, no matter how awesome, could have possibly made up for all of that. But it could have been a great start. Blizzard needs something really amazing to start the process of rebuilding with the fans. They’ve got to know that. How can they not?

But the developers in the video gushing over what they were showing… reminded me way too much of Wyatt Cheng trying to pump up the crowd for Diablo Immortal. And we all know how that turned out.

Blizzard really needed to hit a home run with this patch. And not just something that barely clears the outfield wall. They needed to hit a home run so huge that it left the stadium and broke a windshield in the parking lot. Instead we got a little dribbler down the first base line and the runner’s going to be out by 30 feet.

That might be a bit easier to take if Team Blizzard was way up in the score but the reality is that, for them, it’s the bottom of the ninth inning and you’re behind in the score. And I’m afraid the game is almost over.

Look, I hope I’m wrong about this. After all, this was just a preview video. There’s still a lot we don’t know and I may end up being completely wrong. But I doubt I will be.

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Oh… are you going to get attacked for this…

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Well in the video Danuser did liken this to the end of the first chapter/book of Warcraft.

So 10.0 is going to be a game vastly different than what we have now?

I don’t know what fascination the current devs have with soulless (on multiple levels) robots, but I’m just not feeling it.

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wows dead ffx14 right now has way more new players its like ants lol

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Honestly given the state of the game I’d welcome a change.

It’s not like the game hasn’t gone through a big one before, and the current state of it isn’t all that great.

One just hopes that if they do another drastic change, it’s for the better.

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Yeah but if you have the same people designing what you dont like do you think they’re just going to magically create something totally awesome?

I dont.

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I think it’s possible they’ll do better than what we have now.

We went from Warlords of Draenor to Legion which was well received. Then that team brought us Battle for Azeroth.

If Blizzard actually makes a good expansion or not seems to flip back and forth these days. They’re not consistently terrible or consistently good.

I’m not gonna shy away from trying to make things better simply out of the fear that it might get worse. That’d be stupid.

I’m playing TBC and Final Fantasy and couldn’t be happier. Retail is dead, and I have accepted that. When will you?

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It’s the combination of politics and devaluing the world that will kill the game.

And some players is giving them an helping hand.

I am afraid we are at the end of WoW soon. Too many world rules is being broken for the game to be taken in a level of belief, and it is being held on a thread that some players is trying to cut.

WoW won’t kill itself, the extremist part of the community will kill it.

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Here’s my opinion on the new dev team versus the old dev team.

The old dev team went to a bar and drank whiskey and beer.

The new dev team goes to an alcohol boutique and drinks the fruitiest drink possible with some designer alcohol that only scientists from sweden can pronounce effectively.

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I fully believe the wrong devs were fired.

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