Preaching to the choir, screaming to the void, I know. But especially in WSG, the fact entire teams can mass report an afk bot and he’s still going all weekend is ridiculous. Especially since I’m pretty sure he’s online 24/7, as he jumps on to play some hours.
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A you talking about a certain paladin?
Honestly, they should add a human oversight that after someone gets like 50+ reports in pvp, a person takes a quick look and issues a ban hammer swiftly if they are indeed found to be ruining games / totally botting.
I honestly don’t care if they only ban people from queueing pvp for a week or so, just protect the integrity of the games please.
1 person in a WSG is 10% of the team, it sucks when people go week+ ruining hundreds of games.
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A certain druid, actually. We got him gkicked from his guild by talking to his guild master too.
Goes to show the problem is constant.
Not nearly as bad as SoD, but as those players return to Era they are the ones most likely to ruin games so finding ways to mitigate this issue sooner than later is worth it.
Another option is hidden MMR that kinda helps match-make players of similar skill. The issue is that there aren’t enough people it would probably just be the same people anyhow.
But with MMR at least only the worse players (one who ignore objectives and only zug mid) would have to deal with the botters and afk players.
What I would love to see done, since they get rank 14 and a 2 week slap on the wrist, is to have their rank stripped back to rank 2 and all the gear removed. Make them lose time AND gold.
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Or just add another coward debuff but for pvp.
Coward
- Last between 7 - 30 days /played
- Player is unable to queue for any battleground and some NPCs may mock them as they walk by.
- “this player was found hiding in the face of combat and is a coward to the [Alliance, Horde]”
The debuff would be given to a player by blizzard when reported afk in BGs enough times and investigation proves accurate.
Or even a stealth debuff like that, that allows them to queue, but secretly removes them from the queue, so the bot thinks its queued. If a real player is playing after 30 mins they’ll notice.
I kinda think blizzard should lean on in-game public shaming more. It is probably an effective method to curb bad player habits.
When players are found to buy gold, it is probably a lot more effective to somehow flag that player ingame as a clown than to slap them with a short ban.
Same thing with AFK in pvp.
Imagine having to go to a raid with such a debuff, i think it would make other players think twice about doing the negative action.
Or like if blizzard had a crier NPC that would shame bad actions: “Joe the leader of < Some Guild > was found to break the rules of Azeroth and is in Jail” and next to him there is a little cage with the character that is visible to everyone for a week or so.
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Considering people try to actively shame you for not liking gold buyers, idk if that’d work. People rather make excuses for gold buyers than shame them. AFK PvP bots could prob shame though 
I see you in WSG sometimes, at least I think its you… HI.
any way, yeah there are tons of botters… Allies just got rid of the 2 hunters and a warrior botter / multiboxers scum… now we got a certain T3 paladin… /sigh… oh and a couple of no joke deep prot warriors whom may as well be bots.
THEN on horde side there was a certain warlock / priest multiboxer basically throwin every game., and a few bot mages… but now lol may as well bot bots lookin for a carry streamer warrior guy… He’s basically leeching the horde and talks hella trash; kinda gross.
if im spamming purge on your hunter FC’s and they turn around to emote on me, its me lol
lol yah Laser does that… he seems like a nice guy tho in game. Not toxic like some.
Gold buyers feel no shame, for the have no honor.
I don’t think they’d ever do that and I would hate to see something like that in the game. Plenty of other better solutions that don’t change the game.
I agree that hidden MMR isn’t a perfect solution, but I would posit it is better than what was implemented in SoD.
However, is it better than no action? I am unsure.
Changing vanilla is just not ever an acceptable solution. Leave the game alone. Find other ways to handle botters.
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why hidden MMR?
Let ELO rule the pvp.
If its hidden the devs can adjust as needed until the algorithm promotes good pvp games.
If people see it they will panic if it changes dramatically.
Also, give a number to wow players and they will do all kinds of insane stuff trying to alter it.
I’d rather not punish bad players. Shadow queues/fake queues for botters preferable. Bad players are still trying their best.
Ehhhhhhh, i think id rather just have rando than that after thinking about it.
Points at Retail and SoD as realistic expectations of the developer skill level. Not to say it couldn’t be done, just I dont trust blizzard. I have experienced enough of their MMR system in retail over the years to see how it may actually cause more harm than good.
Simple group size matching like other games is likely practical and would remain fun, and allows low skill and High skill players to mix, I didn’t use to think so but now think that is BIS because they have a chance to learn tricks, where as MMR systems insulate them from learning.
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