affliction warlock boring rotation

Affliction warlock has always been my go to spec on my main. However recently in BFA i find the rotation very unengaging and mindnumbingly boring compared to Legion. This has led to me boosting a mage which feels properly overpowerd and very engaging, am i alone here?
Thats every spec bud, sorry.

Id suggest hopping on forums reddit fight the man like many others are doing.

Unsub as well to get one of thoes sweet survey and score a 30min skype chat with someone why you stopped.
I think Legion was the most dull thing I ever experienced. At least we have a hard burn phase now, and reason to pool shards as the burn phase approaches. The issue comes with just not having anything interesting to do during the interim, this is primarily a result of little interaction between dots and our spells. Demo at least have Demonic Core charges that provide a lot of interesting play to work around, Affliciton doesn't have anything comparable (Nightfall could benefit from charges and a slight boost of damage).
I found legion way more enjoyable because it was sooooo good in so many different types of content i did and i miss that, now its demo on fort weeks and aff on tyr weeks while destro for few raid bosses the rest aff.

And i haven't liked destro since Mop and Demo since wod min. Feelsbad
Well since you guys killed it for people who enjoyed Legion version i thought at least i would see praises sung about the changes.
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ST bfa is more engaging than ST legion. We have more things to manage, and a lot more abilities to use.

nighthold affliction was especially boring. drain drain drain. dots are about to fall off? who cares drain the UA away

I have my complaints about bfa affliction, namely in the multidot department and how our ST dps is tethered so much on the darkglare/db combo
10/26/2018 10:46 PMPosted by Middboss
nighthold affliction was especially boring. drain drain drain. dots are about to fall off? who cares drain the UA away


BFA aff is not much different. after your opener its apply DoTs and SB,SB,SB but NH aff wasnt even the aff legion ended on or prevalent for most of legion to begin with.
10/27/2018 02:13 AMPosted by Izuni

BFA aff is not much different. after your opener its apply DoTs and SB,SB,SB but NH aff wasnt even the aff legion ended on or prevalent for most of legion to begin with.

You are not wrong, BFA is similar, very much so, but I am pushing more buttons. There are more interactions going on that I am paying attention to, and some forward thinking for burn phases. The issue I have is there is only one build. If Nightfall and Drain Soul were competitive with Deathbolt, then the entire spec could have so much more interest. Issue here is simply that one always ends up being superior to others in damage, and thus our build becomes centered around that. If it is anything like Legion though, they will push our builds around based on gear.
10/27/2018 05:40 AMPosted by Delofasht
forward thinking for burn phases.

this right here is about the only thing that makes me enjoy aff anymore. Destro can hardly think ahead for burst phases because infernal just gives us free shards anyway, and demo is just one big rolling snowball, not much room for pooling resources for burn phases.

I can only hope that as we get stronger and stronger trinkets, and more haste, that we eventually are able to dump a few more UAs on procs. I loved that playstyle in mop. Reactionary gameplay mixed with forward thinking are what this class needs.
10/27/2018 05:40 AMPosted by Delofasht
10/27/2018 02:13 AMPosted by Izuni

BFA aff is not much different. after your opener its apply DoTs and SB,SB,SB but NH aff wasnt even the aff legion ended on or prevalent for most of legion to begin with.

You are not wrong, BFA is similar, very much so, but I am pushing more buttons. There are more interactions going on that I am paying attention to, and some forward thinking for burn phases. The issue I have is there is only one build. If Nightfall and Drain Soul were competitive with Deathbolt, then the entire spec could have so much more interest. Issue here is simply that one always ends up being superior to others in damage, and thus our build becomes centered around that. If it is anything like Legion though, they will push our builds around based on gear.


Dont really feel like i am paying attention to anything really, DB has a 30s CD, our CDs have more. Outside of my opener the only extra thing really i am keeping track of since legion is DB and Haunt is much easier to track the Souls were since it has a very static CD. Hitting more buttons maybe but are they meaningful, not really.

More then anything really it just feels super spammy to me. I do want to clarify that if a Majority of the lock community considers this good gameplay then it is in my eyes, just not something personally i prefer(which in the past i said they dont have to design it for me lol).
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Then play demo or destro, don't feel like you just have to play aff when the other 2 specs are fun enough to play while still being at a competitive level (or whatever level you enjoy playing this game at).
Bfa warlock is the worst iteration of warlock ever!
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10/28/2018 07:06 PMPosted by Lannik
Bfa warlock is the worst iteration of warlock ever!


Not worse than classic lock.
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I raided as Affliction in Legion and while it was definitely OP, it was arguably the most boring spec in the game. DoT DoT DoT and Drain. I fell asleep at times.

The new rotation in BFA is a massive upgrade. Blizz doubled the amount of buttons to push during encounters and gave us new visuals.

I am all for rallying against Blizz when they mess up classes but they actually improved Affliction. Now, Enhancement, on the other hand...
10/28/2018 07:06 PMPosted by Lannik
Bfa warlock is the worst iteration of warlock ever!


Oh get your hyperbolic rose tinted goggles out of here.

Affliction is just about as engaging as a dot spec can be right now, it has more dots and more resource pooling for burst windows than any other. If you want to see worst iteration of that spec look at legion, where you had a static rotation with literally no deviation.

Demo and destro are in the best state they’ve been in for years, demo particularly. Once again, if you want to see these specs in a worse spot mechanically you need to look no further than legion. Legion demo was a terribly designed spec with Empowerment spam, and legion destro was trash.

I’m all for wanting to improve certain aspects of the class, but saying “bfa locks are the worst they’ve ever been” is not only false, but it’s unproductive whining.
I love seeing people complain about affliction rotation. It always brings out the FOTM rerollers who should've went back to their original class a long time ago in them. Cute.
10/28/2018 07:06 PMPosted by Lannik
Bfa warlock is the worst iteration of warlock ever!

Yep
Best it ever was, was back before the turned the talent point tree into a cookie cutter. No creativity on players part what so ever. Back in the day 1000’s of ways to place talent points. None of this caster chit, just true to lore curses and channels.
10/30/2018 05:57 PMPosted by Mocoso
10/28/2018 07:06 PMPosted by Lannik
Bfa warlock is the worst iteration of warlock ever!

Yep
Best it ever was, was back before the turned the talent point tree into a cookie cutter. No creativity on players part what so ever. Back in the day 1000’s of ways to place talent points. None of this caster chit, just true to lore curses and channels.


I have a TON more talent choices based on preference today than I did in classic>cata. what?

How many old threads have you bumped now?

I am the opposite. I find mage to be torture to play because you have to be 110% all the time for whatever you do. Warlock spells are much more chill and forgiving and destro is definitely what fire mage should be.

I have been really enjoying affliction which is surprising because I hated it in legion. But I guess I liked demonology in legion and hate it now so lol

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