As the title says, as of current cutoffs, every spec has hit the needed score for the 0.1% season title except for affliction warlock.
0.1% title cutoffs as of today:
All Factions: 3647.0
Horde Only: 3490.9
Alliance Only: 3686.1
The top 3 Affliction warlock M+ scores in the world as follows: #1 - 3503.7 #2 - 3465.6 #3 - 3461.8
I understand the season title only applies to a very small number of players, its just a little disheartening seeing a spec I love be the only spec to not able to compete. I really hope to see some tuning, buffs, or a general overhaul for affliction come season 4
Aff isn’t a sustained rot spec in M+. It is in PvP.
90% of affs damage in M+ comes from Seed and Rapture, neither of those are rot. Aff has no more ramp/rot than shadow priest does. More things to manage, for sure.
Not asking to be meta, would just enjoy a season not being at the absolute bottom of the barrel, especially seeing how S-priest was one of the worse specs start of season 3, now back to the top.
Aff is a sustained spec. It’s how it’s damage profile is designed. It has small burst windows in MR soul rot windows but overall it’s a sustained spec
I’m not sure how much aff you’ve played in M+ keys, but I doubt much.
With VT and SR on short CD, every pull in M+ you UA > VT > SR > Seed spam. Every pull is a burst window. Seed explosion is burst, not sustain. Even on pulls you don’t have VT/SR, you still seed spam.
You only MR on trash pulls if there are 2 or fewer targets, if there are 3 or more targets, seed is more damage. Even with the set bonus, its a dps loss to MR on 3-5 targets.
Who said it was? I’m not comparing the two specs as dot specs, I’m comparing shadow as it saw substantial buffs that brought it from nothing to almost required for high keys.
You’re likely right we won’t see any significant changes in S4, but I’d like to see some tuning before the next xpac.
I have played aff enough over multiple expansions to understand how it plays
Not sure what this has to do with the fact that from 2-5 targets MR is more damage than seed. Hence why I advocate for VT to apply SL for a qol change.
Incorrect. 2-5 target with SL up on all 5 targets MR is higher damage than seed.
The only change shadow is getting for season 4 is going back to its season 2 set bonus which was really strong. S3 shadow is actually weaker than S2 shadow.
We are getting tuning but its not going to make Aff amazing in mplus
I 100% agree that VT should apply SL. MR on 2-targets is good. On 3-5 targets seed wins. Before you tell me I’m wrong, go sim it. The only time you should be using MR on 3-5 targets, is if you get a free proc.
If you refuse to sim it, go to the Warlock discord, any warlock forum, pick any channel you please and ask them is MR is better than seed on 3-5 targets.
I understand now why you may be struggling as aff. If you’re spending that many globals applying SL to every single target in a pull, the pack will be near dead before you even get started.
If you were right, then why aren’t any of the top aff players using MR on pulls with more than 3 targets? (because its a dps loss). Are the sim calculations wrong too?
Simming MR vs Seed is 150k dps difference in AoE, in seeds favor, and that is taking dread touch. If I took doom blossom it would be a 200k aoe difference.
At this point your just arguing out of ignorance or stubbornness
Last I saw, the extension from 4-set was making using MR slightly above seed if you were getting full value from the extension and you managed to have SL on every target. Might also require darkglare to let you refresh agony with a 2nd VT, I don’t fully remember.
That was a while ago and maybe the math was off, but if MR is ahead in that situation, it really just favors the argument that Aff is jumping through hoops to not even keep up with other specs.
Edit: you’d still seed after using the 3 MRs from set bonus
You’re literally nitpicking 2 targets when anyone pushing for title isn’t going to be pulling pulls that low anyways.
That’s the only time you MR is with SL on all targets which is why I stated that VT should apply SL. Would be a huge QoL improvement for aoe pulls.
The issue is that Aff has to choose between aoe or st. If dread touch and doom blossom were individual capstones that would mean it could have good aoe damage and ST for boss fights.
Strange that this is an Aff exclusive problem, when every other non-meta dps still has at least one person in title range even if they have better specs to choose.
But I think that’s what they are trying to say, many other Classes/Specs are not even close to “Meta” and have better Specs that are performing better yet all are attaining the prestige title.
If anything it shows a lot about the current state of Affliction, its performance and tuning isn’t up to par, and that regardless of player skill and dedication it’s simply unobtainable due to the current state of how Affliction is, to be honest is very sad.
100% right with you on this as always
But hopefully Blizzard sees this and starts to make adjustments and tuning coming into S4.
I agree, that’s why I mentioned performance, the trade off is to much of a downside in today’s modern wow, especially when looking at M+ which I’d argue is a majority bulk of PvE content as it’s endless with no lockout.
Make DT a choice node with a passive that haunt grants xyz bonus damage (tube it do DT is the better option as a trade off for managing the debuff and reward players that do) and make DB a choice node with another option.
That and changing vt to apply sl wouod out Aff in a really good spot.
I agree, but if anything it shows with statistics and even suggestions on the forums by some dedicated and passionate players of the spec, Affliction is in need of some changes, be it minor or major it’s clear what we have now needs improvements.
If left as is especially considering we are moving into Season 4 with the exact same tier, nothing will improve.
I just hope Blizzard sees this and starts working on Affliction rather then it being a “Next expansion problem/fix”.
