Afflicted is honestly one of the WORST M+ affixes to be added to the game. They’ve found ways to move things around in mythic plus to make it so that most specs and classes are viable. Afflicted goes directly against that balance by making it so only a few classes and specs can deal with this affix. This affix is a TERRIBLE addition to the game. Afflicted creates a scenario where classes are alienated and made unviable for most group comps and that is not conducive to a growing scene in mythic plus.
Queing into mythic plus is difficult as a DPS player and afflicted further exacerbates this issue. Imagine being a rogue, warlock, DK, hunter, or warrior dps player this week. Unless you have a dedicated group that you run with (which most people don’t), you are left with two options this week for mythic plus. Either you wait 30-60 minutes in queue for a group to accept you or take a break from mythic plus altogether for the week. I’m open to discussion on this but my opinion is that this affix should be either removed, or changed so that certain spells are made viable for dealing with afflicted. Stop excluding certain classes and specs from the game! Let us play what we want to play and stop making affixes that make it so much harder to be a part of the group. I WANT to help with the affix on my warlock, but I’m left to watch as the cast goes off and crushes my cast times. Lastly, stop making warriors so extremely useless to deal with any affix, throw them a bone for the love of azeroth!
I also dislike afflicted, but I feel more than afflicted, we need a reinvigoration of affixes in general.
We need more affixes that everyone can get in on. Examples could be powerups that increase your damage/healing or primary/secondary stats, like the torgast orbs.
Even the runes seasonal affix where you chose which one to dps down for 1 of 3 benefits seem like the right direction and could be converted to an affix.
100% there is zero reason an affix should have some classes that cant even help with it. if blizz is dead set on afflicted and incorp being in the game combine them and only spawn 1 and make it to were an cc from any class or any dispell works to stop them/clear the affix.
you forgot they can set their own key as an option.
you forgot that any class than heals or tanks get almost instant invite provided they have the io according to the key they are pushing:
a player with a timed 23 fort key can enter that same dungeon in a 24.
a player with a timed 18 cant get into a 23 that easly.
if you cant dispell play around an off spec, if you want to full dps, build a team, if you are too lazy to put the effort into building a team, host your key so you get a guaranteed spot.
i like afflicted as it punish the group with a huge dps loss and huge heal loss it punished the zug zug with a sound scream and a huge noticeble buff that everyone knows there was a F up, and when all is said and done ppl know they did wrong.
its a fair and just punishment and to avoid it you only need to press 1 global so the clear condition its also not something out of this world.
bro i do push keys lol both in pugs and in team and afflicted is easy to deal with enough and even if it goes wrong the punishment wont brick any 24-26s keys.
you can look up my character sire, all i say is afflicted makes the responsability be groupwise, not role specific (healer most of the time) while yes you can perfect dispell both or heal and dispell both ghosties, realistically you would weave your dispell while healing the group specially during dangerous pulls/boss mechanics.
this makes the teamwork more beutiful as when the time comes for the healer to feel pressure it will be up to their teammates to handle the affix or be punished by it.
on a side note i really dont know how to offset the non dispell classes problem, like some have unique value like hunters blood lust or warlock/dk battle rez but rogues and warriors on affliected have problems, well at least rogue can deal with incorporeal =/
It really does suck. I hope they remove it along with Incorporeal.
There are affixes that they intend to be challenging but this one I’m sure didn’t work out as they thought. It’s just unpleasent. It’s not necesarrily challenging (alot of classes have instant dispells) but it is just awful in practice. Punishing if it goes off and if they want a group/healer distraction type affix midpull, there are much better affixes they can come up with.
Afflicted is forcing you to play the affixes before the dungeon starts because you need to build the comp around afflicted. Two dispels is not enough because you need to dispel dungeon mechanics. For example:
In DHT, tank is pulling 2-3 poisoners at the start and it’s 100% standard pull. Afflicted spawn when the poisoners put dots on the party members. Then the cats jump on you and put grievous wound on you. It’s very hard to play around that.
In Fall after 1st boss. They have Chronoburst, Bloom, Enervate and Infinite Bolt. If you don’t dispel Chronoburst / Bloom, someone is going to die. Manifested Timeways have a dispel mechanics you need to do them otherwise people is going to die.
In Throne, 3rd boss have dispel mechanics healers need to dispel that otherwise someone is going to die.
I can list more than that. You need to have 3 dispels minimum in a pug group, afflicted is forcing to overcompensate on bringing classes that can handle them. Afflicted is a failed affix designed and should be removed from the game or rework that affix.
There are 8 classes that can handle it and 6 that can’t. That’s not a few. I know the dream is warriors in a 4 stack with a healer, but that comp isn’t good for much.
all of whom are being funneled into single groups because people are drastically over compensating with their group composition and leaving non dispellers scrambling for groups forcing people forming groups having to wait longer to form a viable group…
Did a 23 DHT this morning where I was the only dispel. We had a ret Paladin but he didn’t dispel a single afflicted, likely didn’t even have it talented. Team was vengence/fury/BM Hunter/ret/me
No casts went off and we easily timed the key.
Players I think get inside their heads too much worrying about what is “optimal” instead of just going in and playing the game. I still feel hero/lust is the most overrated “required” ability pugs hold out for.
Recently found out DKs can do afflicted with Dearh Coil. I wasn’t expecting that.
That said, as a healer main, let me say: I do not like the current iteration of afflicted.
Is it challenging? No, it isn’t. What is it? It’s obnoxious.
I’d rather them take away the dispel mechanic, require them to be healed, increase their health pools by 2-3 times what they are currently BUT MAKE THEM SHOW UP AS BOSS FRAMES WHEN THEY SPAWN. I can’t stand having to try and get the dang nameplate under my mouse when there’s also 500 enemy nameplates. Or, when the stupid thing spawns 30 yards behind the group (or in a wall).
I’m fine with it being a “healer affix” if they’d design it to be a healing focus, and provide reasonable (boss frames on the UI dang it!) methods to approach it. I can very, very comfortably weave healing to cover it if it’s part of my UI. The entire level of frustration I have with the affix comes from having to find the stupid thing to target amidst everything else that’s happening, especially when I’m in groups of people who like to face-tank every mechanic possible.
The affix is the easiest affix they have ever created. I struggled with it also when they have introduced it for the first time, but after i got a weakaura that plays a sound while one is still up and made myself a mouseover dispell makro its totality easy.
The only thing they could maybe try to change is the spawn positions which sometimes really can be very unlucky.