I’m so tired of seeing groups with no dispellers. It makes me feel like the community has just shifted to purely believing it’s a healer affix. How did Blizzard NOT foresee that happening? It just sucks to handle on druid. I know the ways to handle it, but no way do I want to stress myself out that much.
I mean only really resto druid can pick up the dispel on the druid tree due to how many dead end talents they have to go through as one change makes them unplayable, I would love to pick it up but out class tree sucks and unlike every other class/spec we don’t have a base line interrupt/dispel.
If we actually had connecters like every other class tree and not an alpha/beta one I would happily oblige. :3 Blizzard literally made it a healer talent on the druids tree due to how our tree works sadly.
I would love if they fixed it but sadly I have little faith in blizzard for this or the hero talents lol.
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Honestly, I pick it up as Guardian for these weeks. Mostly because the vast majority of the druid tree is junk and useless as guardian anyways, but on weeks like this, that dispel makes life so much easier.
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They haven’t, and it’s not. Dungeons too frequently have mandatory magic dispels that leave the affix to the tank and DPS. And no one is routinely healing an afflicted mob in push keys.
Warcraftlogs does not corroborate your way of thinking here. At all.
I mean, it should not be, but the number of times I find myself in a group where people aren’t doing it (omg I just had one with a shaman that had poison cleansing totem and didn’t bother to use it), or I look in the group finder to see there’s no dispellers in the group but they’re looking for a healer (good luck with that) is surprising and frustrating.
I know it’s a dead horse everyone is probably tired of beating. I am too. I feel like at this point last season I actually found myself not having to even touch it because people were so quick to take care of it, but for some reason in this season they aren’t.
I will say I am more keen to join a group on my shaman or priest that has only one other dispel, vs druid where I’d rather have 2.
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I mean looking at Warcraft logs Balance druids can get it true, without to much sacrifice. Feral still %100 can’t get it at all as 3 points is to much of a sacrifice as you lose the only other heal and some utility that healers also expect you to have and even the light/dark talent which is necessary to the kit. Like that is a huge dps loss for us ferals who already have to combat a mindset of people not wanting us in any content.
Guardian druids have to sacrifice some defensives to get it, but at least they are good at keeping themselves up unless the key is high enough that they can’t get it.
Also l don’t need warcraft logs to tell it’s only connected to the resto part of the tree. So it still proves my point Resto doesn’t have to sacrifice anything to get it.
So it sucks which is fair to have to dispel some dps. Like realistically if they connected it to improved sunfire, would ease up so many issues with the tree and affix. But it being in it’s own little spot with the only way to get it is dip into the resto tree getting dead talents that no one but resto can use does make a healer talent.
But I definitely sympathize with being annoyed by those that can get and use their dispels not using them is frustrating.
I havn’t been doing a TON of keys (probably 5-10 with afflicted) but the groups I have been in have been really good at dispelling…some times even both dps dispelling before I even get a chance to. The best thing is to communicate before the dungeon “hey can you help with dispelling afflicted?” or something like that, or if the group is forming, make sure the group leader invites atleast one person that can help dispel.
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As guardian, I try to save a gift of cenarius regrowth for the affix rather than pick up the dispel.
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The good groups initially stress me out more.
The affix shows up, they dispel it, and I’m frantically still looking for it because it must still exist since I didn’t handle it as a healer. Why can’t I see it? Oh, somebody else did it.
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Afflicted is broken this week. Literally. First it was flagged as a player and now eats heals.
You realize we’re talking about the affix, afflicted, right? We are not talking about stuff to be healed through or dispelled as normal mechanics. But maybe you haven’t really done keys at a level where being a team player matters. Warcraftlogs tells you what good players tend to pick. And good players pick dispels during afflicted week to handle the affix. It isn’t meant to be a healer problem.
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Larsong may not be wording their point well, but the point is a valid one. It’s not that feral druid can’t get a dispel which you can certainly prove via perusing warcraft logs. It’s that for a spec that is already near the bottom of the barrel for M+, might be the actual last spec in terms of perceived value in M+, has to burn 6 points down the balance tree (including 3 balance abilities we’ll never use) to get required DPS increases, has one of the lowest (if not the lowest) health pools of any melee DPS naturally, having to transfer 3 points out of our already lacking utility or defensives (due to the points we had to waste down the balance branch) to take a dispel taxes an already overtaxed class tree.
Yes, if I’m in a group that mostly can’t or I have no confidence will dispel, moving those points around to get a dispel is better than risking the debuff going off. But in any group where the healer can get most of them and literally anyone else in the group can take a second dispel to cover the times the healer needs help, allowing the feral the ability to not have to waste 2 more points for the opportunity to spend a third to get a dispel is likely the right call for the group.
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What defensive do you think you have to give up?
I gave up innervate, 2nd point in nurturing, and nature’s vigil, none of which I really miss.
Honestly most places I run with remove corruption because it comes in handy even without afflicted.
Each time afflicted spawns, I just dispel one ghost, and then don’t really care what happens to the second after that. If the other ghost needs to blow up on the group a few times as a reality check, that’s fine. The debuff isn’t really that punishing to my instant-cast heals.
But usually that’s not how it plays out. In most cases people get both before I even have a chance to dispel one of them.
The one that is really annoying IMO is incoporial… sorry I’m not going to rework my talent tree to pick up hibernate.