Afflic is actually busted

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yeah i know, you think that because you are a 2k player with the pov and insight of being exclusively a 2k warlock

bad matchups exist but in most situations ya

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Great analysis this is exactly what happened but he was very aggressive because he knew my priest was oom at 40% health.it aslo seem like he had a speed buff sometimes. He knew he could ignore me to a extent unless I had combust.This happened on ruins and we literally kept playing soccer on the middle pillar. I would frost nova him and place ring of fires down while lining him well that did nothing lmao + mirrors you an me duel pretty often so you know I am pretty decent at 1v1’s this guy was mongo for a kill with heals of a god

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Gotta watch those “general” statements since society, the world, objectivity, etc. all revolve around specifics if one is to be taken seriously.

I get that a lot of these posts are attempts at being witty, a big of hurt ego, that sort of thing but at least try to talk about apples instead of apple pie :slight_smile:

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No. I think that because publicly complaining suggests incompetence. And I’ve already backed up my argument. Show me the great locks abusing the OP nature of the class. Why isn’t this happening in the masses? We all know which classes are popular, why not the massively OP affliction lock?

Or is it possible the few warlocks at high rating are just good players of a fairly balanced class?

The problem with your argument (besides the fact this is a carry alt and you’ve probably never seen my gameplay, so you don’t even have the frame of reference to make it) is primarily that it’s attacking the person, not the argument. This is classic ad hominem. This is what people do when they don’t have any valid opinions or ways of introducing valuable thoughts.

Or, in summary
publicly crying.

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tldr but lmao warlocks

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i don’t disagree and i didn’t publicly complain about warlock
i complained about warlock players that are bad and don’t think their class is good

no you didn’t and your perspective is too new/unaware to be worth anything anyways

there are a LOT of things that are very strong that aren’t overly represented
community perception influences bad players more than anything

no most of the high rated warlocks aren’t good for being high rated on warlock
infact most of the high rated demo locks are not good players, just players that passionately play warlock good or bad and are being rewarded for it because it’s so overwhelmingly good right now

you never presented me with an argument
you just said “crying about warlock lol bad”
i never cried about warlock so instantly there’s no real conversation here

additionally your perspective is incredibly bias
you play 1 class 1 spec and are underwhelmingly bad at it (based off scoring)
you wouldn’t be able to have a real conversation if you wanted to
the only information you have access to is representation and your personal feelings and neither of those are good sources

this is literally the only thing you’ve said in like 15 posts now
if you think me calling you an unaware player is somehow faulting my posts then i’m not sure how you think this isn’t just making you look the way you think i look

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My argument was posted here, so idk how you missed it but that’s on you.

I also think “most high rated warlocks aren’t good” is hysterical because it implies there’s many, but most of all it’s just plain wrong. You don’t accidentally button mash your way to rating. There are plenty of low rated demo locks, stop blaming the class and blame yourself for your losses.

There’s also people in high ratings that would (and do) suggest warlock is bad right now, or just generally have different opinions than you, so I’m not sure why you think rating is relevant to any argument at all. If rating is the backbone of your point of view, it’s apparent you’re unable to provide any sort of logic to back up why you think an under represented class is the star of this meta.

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“UR BAD CAUSE U LOST TO WARLOCK XD”

Who? Cite your sources.

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before I read your wall of text I wanna know about this first

are you implying you aren’t a 1900 warlock main with a negative win loss?

is there another account or hidden character out there? Or did you just say this because you’ve helped lfg players get 1600 or 1800 a few times and that’s supposed to wash away the fact that you’ve been lifetime higher than that by like 200 points in the past once

need clarification

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No, you actually don’t. You have still yet to present any argument as to why you think lock is in an overtuned state. You’re resorting back to ad hominem. The entire reason I brought this up to begin with is because you are suggesting someones CR has anything to do with the argument at hand, and it doesn’t.

If you firmly believe that a person with 2k CR doesn’t have enough understanding of the game to make the argument that lock is not overtuned, than you can easily use your time rather than trolling the forums to make a counter argument in the way only a high rated player could rather than attacking said CR. The fact you keep going back to CR suggests you don’t actually have any idea what you’re talking about.

So in the interest of keeping the conversation moving in a progressive state, re-read the title of the post “Afflic is actually busted”, re-read my statements made about the lack of representation in tournaments, leaderboard, and general gameplay
 and present your argument as to why you believe the opposite.

Or are you trolling like everyone else in the thread? Because so far 100% of your responses suggest so.

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Ok But Mages Dont Have A Stun Guys So None Of This Matters Because The Warlock Can Just Port Away Or Line Of Sight Or Even Use Dark Pact While Kicked (Physical School, bUSTED!)

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there hasn’t been a tournament in 3 months bro what lol

actually just objectively false

Can you please answer this? Who says this???

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i read the title more as someone who like most casual players thought that warlock was bad
and was surprised to find out they were actually really good
now obviously his words at face value are dramatic and wrong

but factually everyone that thinks warlock is bad/below average or even average would be SHOCKED to actually queue into a real life warlock and discover they’ve been trolled by the low end community

with that i completely agree lock is good/competitive and doesn’t have any issues getting cr atm

my personal opinion is that affliction and demo are both the antithesis of fun
but i’m not complaining about their viability LMAO

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I fear we have ventured into the world of fantasy due to the presence of a destroyed ego :slight_smile:

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Interesting. I did not read the title that way. I read it as a player tilted with some absurd logic that because they happened to struggle in arena it was someone else’s fault, and that it’s preposterous to suggest their opponent may have had some sort of skill.

Either way, I would agree with everything else you said. I would not suggest warlock is overtuned, or “busted” however.

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while I think that defensive legendaries are absolutely gross including the drain life one, can we go back to appreciate the irony of a complaining triune fire mage?

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Everything is busted, when your partners have no clue what they’re doing

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You’d be surprised how much of an improvement we would see in PvP if legendaries and covenants were disabled.

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This is a video about the SL S2 meta, in which skill cap gathered opinions from top players about the state of the game. Warlocks start at the 12 minute mark.

For clarity, I don’t agree with everything said. However, in tandem with this forum post, this should stand as reasonable provided evidence that not all high rated players have the same opinions on the meta.

Edit: in fact I would argue it shows the general opinions of this thread are the exception, not the rule.

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Warlock feels pretty strong right now imo. Specifically when playing double caster.