Aff Hellcaller AoE

Can Blackened Soul be changed to include casts of UA AND SoC?

It feels like an extreme oversight that SoC does nothing for Wither stacks which leaves it as a talent implied to be AoE-focused and yet in order to use it we have to cast a our ST spender.

Feel like this one change would make it much more viable in M+.

While we’re at it, maybe make the shard generation from Shadow of Death (capstone from SH) for Dark Harvest be baseline and replace it with something else?
After, all it’s Dark Harvest. It would fit more with the spell theme to be able to have the generation be baseline and then just rework the capstone to something else.

That was the single strangest change this ptr cycle. Unsure if you were playing aff before, but they took it out in 12.1 intentionally:

  • Developers’ notes: We’re updating Blackened Soul to give Hellcaller a better tool for focusing damage into a priority target, increasing the overall flexibility of the hero talent tree rather than have it only excel in situations where multiple targets are present. However, we are keeping the functionality of Malevolence the same, so it remains a cool and impactful tool in Hellcaller’s toolkit.
  • Blackened Soul has been redesigned – If the target is afflicted with your Wither, your Chaos Bolt and Shadowburn increase its stack count by 1. Each time Wither gains a stack it has a chance to collapse, consuming a stack every 1 second to deal

In my opinion, the rest of the changes for aff this patch were actually pretty positive and upward trending. Having to hit more buttons other than seed of corruption in aoe has opened up our kit to actually get tuned, and to have some more talent options that aren’t must picks.

For affliction, I think a good addition to Hellcaller would be if Seed of Corruption explosions @ mid to high stacks would do a bonus “Satyr’s Gift” damage or something — Where it dishes out about 30% to 40% of the total Wither damage instantly.

At least then, for aoe – They’d at least be CONSIDERED for roles such as M+ and heavy-ad-involved fights / multi-targets @ raiding.

It was just a massive nerf to SOC and they tried to spin it as a great buff to single target damage when UA literally stayed the same. This plus Nightfall no longer proc’ing SOC caused about 70% of Aff locks I know to drop the spec, it just no longer has the buttery smooth feeling that it did in S1.

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