Advice on this prebuilt pc

Cooler Masters Computer Specifications

Processors - Desktops

AMD Ryzen 7 5700G

Motherboards - AMD

ASRock B550m

Video Cards - AMD/ATI

GeForce RTX™️ 4060 WINDFORCE OC 8G

Memory

32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600

Solid State Disk

1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Internal SSD

Power

High Power 600W Gold

Operating Systems

Win 11 Home

Case

Cooler Master Elite 301

CPU Cooling

Hyper 212 Spectrum V3

This is a very odd choice for CPU. The 5700G is an APU, meaning that it has built-in graphics that are better than most other CPUs (which either have no built-in graphics, or very minimal built-in graphics). You could probably play WoW just using the graphics built-in to the 5700G, although you’d have to use pretty low settings.

It makes zero sense to use a 5700G in a system where you are using discrete graphics instead. A 5700X3D would absolutely wipe the floor with the 5700G, especially in World of Warcraft, and the two CPUs are about the same price. The 5700X3D doesn’t have any built-in graphics, but you don’t need them because you are buying a system with a RTX 4060…

My guess is that this was done because the seller has a lot of 5700G inventory. Certainly not because it makes sense from a system-builder point of view.

This is a fine motherboard, nothing wrong here.

Should be fine. Not a super high-end videocard but WoW is primarily CPU limited in most situations where performance actually matters. Just know that the 8GB VRam might become a limitation if you use a 4K monitor.

DDR4 3600 is the sweet-spot for AM4, so this is good. Just keep in mind that ram latency also matters, it’s not just about speed.

It would make me a bit nervous if they did not list the brand. There are a lot of variables when it comes to SSD beyond the capacity and interface. There are different types of flash memory, such as SLC (Single), MLC (multi/dual), TLC (Triple), and QLC (Quad). Each one attempts to cram more data onto the same amount of flash memory, increasing capacity, but decreasing flash longevity and sometimes speed in the process. The drive might also have different levels of cache in the form of SLC or DRam caches.

So for example, a typical “good” drive these days would use TLC flash memory, but have smaller DRam and SLC caches that handle most data first before it ever gets to the TLC, making the drive much faster and dramatically evening out the wear on that TLC and extending it’s life. A cheap drive might just be a block of QLC flash memory, with no cache at all, so you’re just directly accessing that QLC flash every time, which can actually be pretty slow sometimes, and the drive might totally wear-out after only a few years…

Looks like a pretty low-end power-supply. It’s probably “good enough”, but this is really one area where you don’t want to skimp on.

This CPU cooler is based on an ancient design. It was a decent cooler 10-15 years ago, and became very popular because of it’s price. Cooler Master has made very minor revisions to it and basically kept selling the same thing ever since. The thing is, you can get coolers that are a LOT better now from brands like Thermalright and those coolers only cost $25-30 in most cases. Modern CPUs tend to run pretty hot, so cooling is actually pretty important if you want them to boost to their max boost speed.

Bottom line is that it looks to me like this system was thrown together using a bunch of cheap, excess, and old inventory. Not everything about it is bad, but it wasn’t designed for your benefit, it was designed as a way for that store to sell-off mediocre parts.

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That cpu is such an odd choice.

Much better cpu’s for the price on the same platform, like the newer 5700x3d.

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Yeah
That prebuild is gonna spend a lot of time in warranty.

-Poor CPU choice
-MoBo brand is unreliable, same with their warranty practices
-PSU has to be a joke. I’d say it’s bare minimum to things rolling, but id be lying to you
-Cheap out cooler
-Personal, but Win11 is trash.

Technician of 15 and a bit years, with a lot of warranty practices. Don’t do it, go custom build. I’ll even help you out with it.

G series CPU is subpar, esp with what’s on there. Grab yourself the X or X3D upgrade if it’s there.

ASRocks warranty is atrocious. If something’s faulty, they’ll replace it. With a faulty pre-owned piece. You’re effectively paying retail for pre-owned faulty hardware.

600w PSU?
Ok, but no.
Go Corsair, if you can’t go Corsair, go MSI. It’s not the best backup, but it beats a lot of other brands in this section

Air-cooler? Ah yes, I too like pushing around hot air in my system that’s already running hot. Upgrade to a water cooler or bequiet!. I’m running the rog ryujin, but before that was a Galahad and that’s a solid pick too. Bequiet is what a mate runs but his temps are higher than mine.

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Biggest issue is that the g chips are only pcie3 with half the cache of their standard non igpu parts.

ASRock and MSI are top tier these days.

ASRock customer service is better than it used to be, Asus is abysmal though.

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based on the specs it looks like CM is looking to get rid of some overstock parts

CPU is not a good choice for a dedicated GPU system
basic mobo
weird they would use a High Power PSU instead of a CM one. CM has used High Power in the past for to build some of their PSU but without an actual model number it’s hard to say if its any good although High Power tends to make mediocre at best units (some decent).

My personal advice when people go pre-built, get the PC with the best CPU you can get and the minimum amount of RAM and least powerful GPU. Get RAM, a solid PSU, and a good GPU off amazon/newegg, etc., and install them yourself (easy upgrades). Those three parts tend to have the highest margins for pre-built companies.

Suppose i could’ve noticed it didnt post my question with it.

I have always had a budget PC due to financial issues for years now. I am finally making a living. I can now safely buy a good rig. Is this one going to run me on High graphics? I dont need Ultra. If there are hang ups or issues point them out please

I appreciate every bit of this advice! I am going prebuilt like this simply due to budget. I am going through a Rent to own place local to me. The total cost compared to the cost of parts is pretty reasonably close. I do intent to upgrade things over time. But currently I am just trying to get a leg to stand on besides this crummy laptop. It plays most everywhere in WoW fine…except first loading Dornagol.

You’re buying outdated hardware, one that isn’t exactly the best for WoW and without knowing how much and the fact that its “rent to own” sounds like a bad idea.

If you live near a Microcenter or have some mom and pop PC shops, it might be better to buy your own parts and pay a fee to have the shop build it for you.

Unfortunately the only pc shop near me and that term fits loosely is Best Buy. All the mom and pop places just died out as things got more expensive. Is this a build i can improve on easy enough? Thats my ultimate goal. I just want a place to start.

So how much exactly is your budget. Since you mention “rent to own” i highly discourage you go into debt but this isn’t a financial forum so do as you will.

Hestiant to even recommend something, but doing a quick look at pre-builts under 1k at bestbuy seeing as that is the average price point for a rtx 4060 prebuilt. This is what I found to be okay. Gives you decent performance now and leaves you room to expand.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-7700-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-7600-8gb-1tb-ssd-white/6575119.p?skuId=6575119

you’re basically trying to find a needle in a haystack with prebuilts and pricing right now.

rent to own does not sound like a good financial purchase especially with “older” tech

I would go to your local best buy and see what they have. Web sites like Tom’s Hardware, Techpowerup, and logical increments have hierarchy performance charts for CPUs & GPUs were you can compare performance. You can also compare what best buys has against amazon/newegg as well.

I will keep all of this in mind going forward. As for my budget its sort of non-existent atleast not all at once. I have a newborn and most of what i have goes there. Hence the reason for the RTO.

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