Been playing this game for 15 years. Alliance has always had the map biased towards them. There’s videos proving it and plenty of articles from 10 + years ago talking about it.
PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY.
Just because u can’t zerg doesn’t mean you can’t win, Just play like we do.
Back caps and recalls
Full red map (blue in your case)
Secure the proper gys to pinch the enemy forces in half and force a turtle.
When the turtle is occurring you need to send in offense and win the team fight before defense can set up.
When you have 15 to 20 people spawning at The horde cave you’re in a good position to win the match.
There’s a reason why most horde av will leave snowfall uncapped. that separates you from the north and forces you into the South as long as we hold shg why you guys should never be able to get back North unless you recall.
I’m sorry you can’t win 6-minute matches anymore, you we’re never supposed to.
100% agree - so many try to claim its a horde favored map and thats why we win.
I personally think its because we had to learn how to ACTUALLY play the map (which gys to cap and when, when to recall etc) to stop the premades from getting that easy W. This made us much better at playing while alliance relied on the easy game - now they have been stripped of that easy win and we are still more knowledgeable
This game is not an accurate representation of vanilla AV.
We tried. We died. Now both sides will cry.
If I could play like you, I would. I would meet you at IBGY and take it from you before you managed to make it to the FoS. Then, maybe you’d understand.
If we go for SFGY or IBGY, we lose SHGY every time. It is indefensible. The only way alliance can possibly win now is to:
Wipe horde at Bal
After respawn, Wipe horde at FoS
After this, wipe horde again at the IBGY choke
Take IBGY
Yes, we just need to send in offense. We just need to be able to have an offense. Except for the fact that Horde get to SH before we do. Small problem.
That requires us to go through 1-4 as above. We have to wipe you at least 3 times to even have a chance at victory. You only typically have to wipe us once.
Horde do not leave SF uncapped. The only time we get to keep it is when we 40 man stand on SF GY. This gives you 5 minutes to take SH and move onto SP. Not a winning strategy for our offense to begin at SFGY when you are already at our base.
You could also win 15 minute matches. You choose not to. The reason you don’t baffles me.
You are very mistaken about things on the alliance side. We don’t have any good “pinches” except performing a triangle at IBGY. Not like SHGY where you guys can blizzard one spot and stop everyone, which you also get to before we even get to the field.
If we do die in the field, we get put in a GY where we can’t get out and get farmed by the horde for 10 minutes if we don’t ghost run to any GY in the north, because Horde caps all GYs including SF.
Camping your cave is also different. Once again you can blizzard one spot and take up the whole path in two places before we get a second path where Horde opens up to an open field.