Addressing WotLK's Faction Based Population Disparity: The Potential Benefits of a Free-for-All PvP System

There is a huge problem in the wotlk pvp scene and that is: No pvp due to a lack of opposing faction members. If we take a quick look we can see this great disparity:

Benediction US: 99.9% alliance
Faerlina US: 99.9% horde
Gehennas EU: 99.9% horde
Firemaw EU: 99.8% horde

There are 16 servers with a population ratio as bad as the ones above.

One potential solution to the faction imbalance on PvP servers would be to implement a cross-faction grouping and guilding system, combined with a free-for-all PvP system. In this system, any character would be free to attack any other character, unless they were part of the same group or guild. The same rules would apply regarding guard npc’s attacking hostile behavior, and cities being non-pvp zones for their respective faction.

This would serve to revitalize world PvP, as players would be able to engage in open combat with members of both factions. It would also remove the sense of isolation that can affect the minority faction, allowing them to engage in PvE content without fear of being constantly singled out in the open world. No longer would a lone Horde player on Benediction have to contend with 30 aggressive Alliance players in Stranglethorn Vale; now, their enemies would have new enemies to contend with, making the game world a bit more tolerable for the minority faction.

I can see you watched Asmongold and are repeating his opinion here.

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No, he has never been in favor of All vs All pvp.

please yes i would freaking kill every dk bot id see

Free for all pvp just shows there was never any faction pride.

It’s clear no one wants to be forced into PVP. If you want to PVP join a BG or Arena.

They should also revamp BGs so NPCs don’t give much honor but HKs do and add a timer to avoid camping and turtles.

Arena is fine as is.

No one wants world PVP. It’s clear by the fact servers have largely segregated.

Finally, if you want actual world PVP, it should be war mode like retail and people should opt in.

Also you shouldn’t be able to fight people more than ±3 levels from you and only people in this range give honor.

See I fixed it all. For free. Just implement my ideas and the game is fixed.

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An interesting idea for sure… but I think it would just cause a lot of crying and whining from people who rolled on servers that were already dominated by 1 faction or another. For example, imagine Benediction if it were a free for all. There’s just so many people, it’d be carnage, unescapable carnage too.

Interesting that’s exactly what Asmongold said, you must be quoting him.

Nope, I just agree with him on some points. I added more things than he talked about.

No offense, but your ideas are very bad game design now that I have read them through.

No one wants to be attacked by people on their own faction and we don’t want or need a mercenary mode. It was bad in retail and it’s still bad.

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Just give us faction locked servers in the next Vanilla relaunch and we’ll be fine.

THis works for eve but it not work here.

Eve you have the benefit you can hide in space. Space is really big you see.

Wow has static spots. Set up on a farm 20 questors will hit up, pick em off.

pvp is not fair at times. but it should not be feed low skill gankers easy kills either.

in eve gankers have to work at scanning to find you. random areas per mission has it so they can’t jsut wander in.

bring on player-made factions. or each race is friendly to itself and FFA with other races. (outside parties and raids and BGs)

that…could make this work. I know from past postings you have been in an eve alliance or 2 it seems.

they can be fun times. if people aren’t be buttheads about. Many crews I rolled with had no piracy/no gank policies.

we were at war with another 2000 man alliance. got 2000 war targets to kill there, pick one, hell pick 10+ a day. ain’t no need to be popping miners in empire.

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Well, that’s an interesting idea and a different kind of thread which is nice, honestly.

The problem is that the majority of the people (not all of course before someone says this isn’t them) on these 99.9% servers don’t care about world PVP or often any PVP at all. It’s all about rolling on a “PVP” server to have people around that PVE better.

I do think it would be funny to do this to these players and it would also make the game quite a bit more interesting but yeah it won’t happen. I will say it’s a cute idea though.

EVE’s model in a special WoW server would be a dream come true… :slight_smile:

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