Addons that automatically cast spells are cheating and should be banned

Is this a copypasta?

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I like saying “Buying gold is cheating” in Barrens Chat or STV just to see who gets mad.

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Wait wait wait. I thought banning gdkps got rid of gold buyers…

Blizz should do something about the actual problem and ban these gold buyers and sellers permanently, and then let us have gdkps back.

GDKP was banned because they couldn’t or wouldn’t police themselves which exacerbated(This means made things worse) the problem.

Similar to GDKP, Boosts also contribute to the problem as they encourage people to buy gold for the same reason that GDKP encourages people to buy gold.

They are doing something.
Banning GDKP is one of those steps.
SoD was a test bed to see how it impacted the economy, the community, and the shape of end game.

Clearly that test worked as they’ve continued that ban onto the newest version of Classic as I expect them to do with all further versions of Vanilla including whatever follows after SoD.

Oh, i didnt realize you were a meme account.

Keep fighting the good fight my friend!

Say that to my microsoft app Auto Clicker thats high alching in the GE for me while im at work

Said the botter or gold buyer.

So if someone finds your gimmick to be unsatisying, they must be a cheater?

Dude you’re an illiterate meme.

Said the botter or the gold buyer. Botters and gold buyers are the only ones to get upset by bans directed toward them. You say I am a meme, and if its a meme to report botters and gold buyers and gold sellers then I am the greatest meme of all time.

ban all addons. Watch classic raids go from being EZ mode to “please nerf its hard!” in an instant :wink:

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Era players suck even with add-ons moving out of fire is too hard.

Add-ons won’t be removed the game is literally balanced around people using add-ons.

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Many many players would struggle so bad, and then “omg” WTH complaints would be very entertaining.

Its not any different in retail, they’re terrible no matter where you go man. The only difference in retail is you have a ton of features and WA that hand hold better than the ones in vanilla. Also the classes in retail hand hold differently and most classes have tools to cover for it.

There is a reason we have essentially the retail version of the Add-On API, as they have made numerous changes to it making it more and more challenging to automate any type of activity, this includes what add-ons like weak auras can do. The thing is though even if someone figured out a way to make it or another add-on get around these rules, it really doesn’t matter, as any form of botting is bannable, and any and all bots should be reported, and it doesn’t matter how they achieved it.

I personally always find when I file a report that it helps that I kill the bot a few times first, allowing it to go thru the same pattern of behavior multiple times, I then document that in my report, and identify any silly things like how if you have Hunters Mark on you as a rogue, since many of the hunters will automatically cast it, you still can somehow stealth up with it on you after they Rez and kill the bot yet again, with no a change in their behavior. I don’t know if my success rate is as good as Cezar’s but for pure bots, but I feel I have had good success.

The misconception is that having the information makes it so you can do the mechanics and that couldn’t be further from the truth

Do you have any mythic raiding experience?

I have 3 cutting edges from Legion and only about 3% of the population gets cutting edge every raid tier, and I promise you they all use weak auras and DBM.

Knowing what mechanics are about to happen isn’t the same thing as executing 6 mechanics all happening at once.

Era players have no clue how hard the content gets later because they have killed Rag for 20 years. They have target dummy raid bosses.

Lfr is harder than all of era.

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I grouped with someone the other day and noticed that he instantly and religiously marked targets, despite it being kind of pointless.

Turns out it’s the addon restedxp. I had thought this addon was just a kind of pseudo botting where it tells you which buttons to press but you still have to press them, removing the thinking element but keeping the human in the loop. Apparently it presses at least some of the buttons itself.

Marking targets isn’t considered a combat action, so it’s something add-ons can do and isn’t a restricted function, its also PvE only, as I don’t think you can mark a PvP target.

Also a lot of functions have combat and out of combat restrictions, where if you’re not in combat it will allow things, but in combat, it completely locks it out.

Isn’t considered a combat action eh? I guess it has a few non-combat uses but it’s clearly intended for use in combat.

Still, guess that is what it is.

Everyone uses WA in mythic because the content is tuned to compensate for that. This is why cutting edge is actually hard and would be potentially next to impossible without.

Point being that PVE related informational addons are why we have to add more raid mechanics all the time to compensate for the addons.

You will never be able to explain this to them if they have not done it. Most don’t do TBC because the PVE is too hard with even 3 mechanics to do.

Point I was making is that if addons that gave you information are banned forever and cannot be made to work then the vanilla content would actually be better. If they did the same in retail then making NEW / MORE raid content would be easier allowing the developers to feed the needs of raiders rather than wait months or even in some cases near a year for new content.

you can think of addons vs raid mechanics as an arms race, we need an overall reduction to get the content generation in retail to be better.

You can also think of addons as a difficulty slider. More addons, less difficulty. The problem is players insist on the content being difficult on the easiest setting, to the point that the hard setting is effectively impossible.

Another good model is as cheats, while they’re not against the rules, still a useful tool for thinking about them.

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