I meant omnibar not omnicc. I always get their names confused. Yes I am okay with being able to see the timers and see my hots/dots on nameplates.
So you basically want to deprive players of useful information? I don’t understand that stance. Addons are available to everyone. While the base UI provides most of this information, it doesn’t do it well. In the end, being good in arena isn’t just about pressing a button because some air horn went off. If it was, everyone would be the same rating. Plenty of things that matter more.
I agree with the addon issue. There should not be addons that show the enemy cd timers for offensive or defensive spells. There should only be the default UI and at most show trinket timer. Having these on your UI is akin to seeing the opposing team’s playbook in a football game. There should be no addon that shows cc diminishing returns. Even pros from the old day complain about that where back in the day you couldn’t use addons in tournaments.
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The only people depriving information here is blizzard and their terrible UI that takes numerous addons just to be competitive past a casual level, your opinion is incredibly ignorant and not informed. 'Plenty of things that matter more." lmao then why comment? This is the kind of ignorant response you get from ppl who support 3rd party cheating aka wow addons. The fact it takes someone outside of you and the game to tell you what’s going on in game IS THE PROBLEM, ppl like you have become comfortable relying someone else to put in the work for you.
I’m the only true gamer left just me and my tmorph 
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When you get banned because you did a 1600 2’s game but you had Postal installed 
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The only people who think addons are cheating are bad players who self-handicap so they have an excuse for when they lose.
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I mean, it’s just not fun.
Half of the buffs and debuffs need to go.
All big dam cds need big animations.
All big defense cds need big animations.
Kicks in general need a better information system. You either play with no addons and try to hear the very quiet kick sound, and then count in your head.
Or you weak aura or lossa the kick. Their is no other way around this. Option 2 is the only viable option.
Wow has trash animations and sounds and relies on jet pilot simulator style combat of frames on top of frames on top of frames. I mean is this REALLY the rpg style combat we wanted? I can’t seem to find any other game that requires 70 icons for buffs and debuffs and a slew of WAs just to function.
Wow needs a big prune idc if you guys didn’t like it back then or not. You cannot essentially add 100’s of debuffs and buffs over 20 years and not prune anything. I don’t speak for the entire playerbase but I hardly log in retail anymore and just enjoy classic because it was actually somewhat playable from a “normal” gaming sense.
If anything, kick trackers and maybe short cd trackers for things like blinks, shadowsteps, charges, etc should automatically be supported in game, inside or outside of arena, especially if we are going to continue to accept this ultra-high mobility/pseudo interrupt meta that we’ve been stuck on for 4 xpacs.
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3 months later. lol
I’m ignorant? We’re say the same thing.
We both acknowledge that problem… so why are you so mad?
What addons are you saying are cheating? Please be specific. Gladius? Bartender? Which ones?
Addons might help a player’s gameplay, but in the end, it’s how you react to a situation that’s makes you good. One of the most important aspects of arena is positioning and WHEN to use your trinket. Scripts, bots, addons telling you to trinket… all of those aren’t going to get you to the next level. It’s always easy to spot the players who are cheating and scripting.
The players who complain about addons are just looking for an excuse.
The players who think addons are cheating at the top tier players that use them to exploit callouts to withing a fraction of second.
yep. this. get with the times, BUD
Oh, you mean DL addons to allow me to play the game? A game that with out addons a mode within is basically an entirely different game from those who aren’t using addon?
Add ons make me lag too much. Do I need more ram?
If you dont want to use addons that’s fine, stop whining.
While I think the ‘hur hur addons r cheating’ argument is stupid, I do agree that Blizzard could incorporate a lot more functionality into their own UI to save people the hassle of having to use so many. I imagine their point of view is if the community is willing to create game features for free, then they don’t need to.
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Default omnibar, gladius and bigdebuffs is like 90% of what most people use
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I did notice that on beta there was a Dr tracker on the default arena frames, progress.
I don’t think the argument is stupid. I think the statemwnt that addons are cheating is 100% accurate, but the people who see everyone else using “cheating” that has been sanctioned by Blizzard and don’t do it themselves are just stupid. Choosing to die on the “addons are cheating” hill is stupid.
Might want to look up the definition of cheating, then. Lol
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Extremely condescending, but I’ll bite.
There’s a reason I called it “sanctioned cheating”. Any other game would consider it cheating. Blizzard does not. Like I said, its the people who choose to die on this hill that are stupid, not really the argument itself.
Trying to say it isn’t is like trying to say the wow token isn’t RMT. (It is, just sanctioned.)