Why would you make it so I can’t turn off addon profiler… it’s literally causing freezes and frame drops for me and a bunch of other people. Please let me turn it off again. Why do you take this stance on it being mandatory. Does anyone even find it useful?
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It’s entirely possible that they simply don’t want players being able to disable something like that to begin with. At least not without an official option for it. Unforeseen side effects and all that.
But if it’s causing you trouble, I’d really recommend looking into upgrading your CPU/mobo before current events make that unfeasible… I did a couple months ago (previously using a 10 year old potato) and the difference is night and day.
i never noticed it to be honest.
if I get a strangle lags is usually cuz I left TSM or some other addon running in a delve or something that I usually didn’t need running in there anyway so I turn them all off except for the ones I need for whatever I’m doing.
like Ah stuff for when I want to do Ah stuff, combat stuff for when I want to delves.
now server lag theres nothing I can do about that , idk if the addon profiler is causing any of that. but I don’t see how it would be.
Undermine and the new Hallowfall zone event is just as laggy for me as everyone else.
and yea, I know it’s TSM most times cuz it throws lua errors on the screen and it says its TSM, or whatever causing it.
Had one error freeze my game when TSM was trying to read my clipboard of all things when I was looting stuff in delves.
I have a brand new a I7-14700KF and a 4080 super. Everything is for sure good enough to run wow. Its the profiler. I used to be able to turn it off and gain about 20-25 frames and more importantly not get the 2 sec freezes anymore.
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you 100% positive it’s not an addon causing UI stutter?
huh… That definitely sounds like it’s a conflict with something, but even with my old machine I only ever experienced stuff like that during big raid pulls.
Yep. 100% the addon profiler. you can look at pervious posts about it. I can turn off all addons and nothing changes. Severe FPS Drops since 11.1.5 - Support / Technical Support - World of Warcraft Forums
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why would it not affect me then?
I have an AMD Ryzen 7 CPU and an RTX 3060 12GB GP.
WoW and everything else is installed on an m.2 drive.
I have several of those drives cuz I also do 3D art renders.
I mean, if I can disable TSM, and the UI stuttering goes away, I’m gonna blame it on the addon not the profiler.
and if I can get an ingame price DB that has daily sales volumes I won’t need TSM either.
but yea, anyway. the only difference I see is that you have an intel and I have an AMD CPU, maybe thats the problem?
I know that intel has had a number of problems with it’s 13th gen CPU not sure about the 14k series tho as I’m really not interested in buying one so the only time I read about ehm is on the 3Da art forums and people posting about the issues they have or had.
also…I should note and you prolly know this already sometimes an addon maker will try to simply update the toc and see if it works or not before doing much else. Sometime it takes more tha that tho.
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Not sure why it doesnt happen to you. I know personally when I was able to turn it off I was able to gain 20-25 frames just from turning off the profiler, not any addons just the profiler. Could be a intel thing, possibly, I’m not sure. I know there is plenty of others dealing with this so it seems to be a pretty common thing. There is people who have better systems than me who are down almost 50 fps and have reported the same thing.
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after reading thru that bug report thread I’m inclined to think thats more from players exceeding the refresh rate of their monitors with excessive FPS rates than the addon profiler really.
Your monitors refresh rate determines what your max FPS will be.
So a 60hz monitor caps out at 60 FPS, all frames sent to it above that are dropped.
Which frames it drops will determine if you get stuttering, tearing, etc,.etc.
those fake frame things like FSR aren’t doing anyone any good if it exceeds their monitors capabilities.
that one guy saying he was getting 250 FPS would need a monitor with a refresh rate equal to or greater than 250hz to reliably achieve that.
I FPS lock my game so it won’t exceed my refresh rate.
edit: I would start by disabling any FSR, fake frame upscaler whatevers, then FPS lock the game on the graphics settings to whatever your monitors max refresh rate is and disable any out of date adddons until they get properly updated.
See if that helps
If not then it’s time to look a bit deeper.
Doesn’t that just show that it’s not addons, not that it is the profiler? I’m not saying you’re wrong but that it could equally me under the hood game client/engine changes that are unrelated.
Well I have a 240hz monitor and usually only run about 180 fps just sitting in game flying around, around 100-130 in keys and 60-80 in raid. So I’m for sure not exceeding my monitors rate. It may be time for a reinstall but I do know, this started again once I couldnt turn the profiler off. All drivers are up to date. Systems are not running hot. Don’t have any errors. No fake frames, I turned that off in bios long time ago. Still have the same issues with default settings and no addons so its time for a deeper dive but it remains unclear what the issue is.
Well yeah if I disable all my addons and the problem still exists its 1000% not any addon causing this issue. Its possible it would take a deeper dive into what exactly they changed going into 11.1 which I was able to fix then 11.1.5 came along and I’m back to step 1.
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yea, if you do a UI reset
can just move the folders to your desktop for example just for testing then move them back after testing
and the problems persists, then yea. That would eliminate all addons for sure.
not necessarily pointing a finger that the profiler just yet. It certainly could cause this. tho the WoW dev posted and said they couldn’t reproduce the problem. make of that what you will tho.
Wouldn’t be the first time it was A Windows problem and an update to Windows solved it.
Or a display driver regression, so had to roll back to an older driver
or another program like Windows search, and a myriad of other things.
Odd that it’s not happening to everyone tho.
If it happens again to me I’ll report it on that bug report thread you shared tho.
Maybe I’m just not doing whatever triggers it.