This has always been a problem with BGs. Premade teams using comms should not be matched up against random teams. Its unfair and not fun at all to be in one of these matches. The obvious and very simple solution is to add solo queue. Random teams only play against random teams and premades only go against premades. Easy. Why can’t you implement this?
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Because apparently when they do this it “kills bg participation”.
Note my ironic tone based on the fact there’s at most 2 WSG and 1 AB launching at a time during prime time.
And one of the reasons for it i heard from a ton of people (i’m in an 800+ members guild) is largely due to premade frustrations.
There’s only 24 hours in a day, spending any of that limited time being ego fodder for full Grand Marshal teams on coms and popping engi consumes on cd is not an appealing in any way to most people.
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Especially when that time is prefaced by a 25-45 minute queue time.
Which version of the game are you talking about? Anniversary?
I don’t care what they do for anniversary servers, so take this with a grain of salt, but in WoW Classic, BGs are the ranked content. That’s the highest content for PVP, and the rewards are the best you can get through PVP, so it’s OK that it’s competitive, imo.
And just like with modern online competitive PVP games, auto-assembled teams are matched against premade teams.
What they could do, and in my opinion should do is give throwers timeouts. Maybe a 1 hour timeout the first time, progressing up to something like 2-weeks for habitual behavior.
Because the only people who actually want this are those who want to do nothing, get carried by the players around them, and get gear for free.
The only people who seem to mind are the throwers. Personally, that is my least favorite type of player, and the one I would wish to be catered toward the least.
Of course, that’s just my opinion.
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premade players put their pants on one leg at a time. Outplay them. Win. Easy.
Solo queue won’t help anything - people that don’t want to play against premades tend to be the same people who don’t actually pvp when they get into a game and end up afk typing half of it.
MMR is a much better solution - a 10 stack could end up versus a 7 stack and 3 solos, or versus 10 solos - but they would all be the same skill.
This fixes the real problem in wow pvp - that players go afk and ruin games or they are at such a different skill level that they refuse to participate. Put people in games with their peers and premades aren’t an issue anymore.
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I loathe mmr in games. I don’t want every game to be a sweat against equally skilled players. I wanna stomp people I’m better at, and be stomped by people better than me too. Not grind against people the same as me.
Then add a ranked queue for MMR and leave the current queue as is.
Solo queue will just make people stop queuing because they end up with the worst players constantly and/or queue-stack in discord.
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4 - 7 going on Era, not sure why anniversary BG’s are so fried. Era is 10x more sweaty in PvP also, so its not the use of consumes or coms because there are generally partials going all the time, and a couple full prem.
I do think its a culture thing, and what I think it is, anniversary players just want to show up and get a free win… On anniversary if the First class is a loss people just quit and you see “gg let them win”
meanwhile on Era first class may get scuffed and like two armies of rabbid chimps both sides generally duke it out until the game closes.
Kills it for who the group queue pvpers? just remove group queue then cant queue more than 2 people for bgs
I regularly queue with 2-3 friends so yeah there’s three to four average joes that this will kill it for.
Blizz has attempted this “fix” before and it hasn’t helped. Participation nosedived.
Our group and many others just want to play matches but aren’t gigachad pros. Just bros having fun and maybe snatching a win if our team doesn’t just give up. Or not but then we just go agane.