Want to play a rogue but dont PVE = No weapons.
wanna open world pvp, farm and bg beyond AQ gear help us out with pvp weapons
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Gonna have a hell of a time getting pvp gear on a HARDCORE server lmao?
my guy nobody actually cares about HC its just a fad thats going to die the second Fresh + or whatever they’re doing releases.
All though HC pvp would actually be interesting.
Ah yes, no one cares about HC, just the hundreds of players who used the fan-made option and are lining up to play the official release.
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OFC people are lining up.
Retail version is a ghost town. WOTLK is not doing well, they completely screwed up the pvp side of it.
Classic is what people are wanting and actifission is great at milking 1 thing at a time. If they did HC along side fresh classic would be a ghost town as well and you know it.
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We both know that there are players who want completely different things from their play experience. Hardcore brings risk, and all the casual babbies would go to just another fresh classic server to play in, with all the classic server issues.
Wheres the risk with official rules?
You can trade
Use AH
Run multiple dungs
Who dies leveling anyways lol
Unless you’re pvping you shouldn’t be dying.
OFC there are places with hyper spawns and quests that can kill you but if you’re playing HC you just avoid those areas and boom, easy. I ran HC with the addon and it was still boring but I am a pvp’r and that could be a lot of it. I can’t level without some pvp interaction.
I understand people love pve and love to raid. Which is why I believe it needs to be fair both ways. Your problem is you look down on a pvp’r like they dont deserve the same gear progression.
I would be completely fine if they added pvp weapons that you could NOT take into raids.
I don’t look down on PvPer’s, I look down on you because you are whining like a spoiled little brat. Not to mention you have been completely tossing aside the fact that you are only allowed one dungeon run per day, per dungeon, and that hundreds of people have died, even the pro-streamers. Things happen out in the leveling zones, and death has always been a part of it. Just how I know you have died multiple times, because everyone dies.
Everyone makes mistakes
The difference is that in hardcore you are only allowed one mistake. I’m sure you can grind boars and coyotes to the heart’s content and be safe the entire time, but that is not what the experience is about, nor is it how everyone plays. The strawman you are attempting to use states like “leveling is easy, you don’t die” when it requires an extremely narrow corridor of gameplay, not to mention a rather tedious and boring one to boot.
It is already fair both ways; There are regular classic servers. If you want to gain your PvP gear on a classic world, you can already do that. Hardcore in its essence does not lend well to a PvP experience, not unless the Devs can implement a method of battlegrounds where it behaves like a duel, and you are carried away back to a recovery area to regenerate health.
How is giving critical feedback that the majority of pvp’rs share, “Spoiled brat like”… You came in and injected you’re ego driven typical HC opinion and im not even talking about HC. The same ptr is fixing to go up for pvp with the blues and I thought that was this PTR.
My opinion of hc would be dead of fresh was released beside it stands. You obviously know its true thats why you’re so bent out of shape.
You saw the part where I played HC right?
This is actually false as I made like 4 or 5 in one pull on my rogue. But luckily I have vanish, blind gouge. Maybe check the talents out before you start HC bud.
This is not critical feedback, you are wanting what you want and you want it now.
Neither HC nor Fresh would be dead, as both cater to different styles on play; One is safe, one is not safe, and it would find its players. Even then, if you have played HC then you know full well that PvP could never function within the scope of what the mode is attempting to do.
As for your second strawman, where you incline you made 5 mistakes on one pull with your rogue, you can definitely use your abilities in order to bail yourself out of a bad situation, especially if they are all off of cooldown. However we both know that is not always going to be the case, not unless you wait 4-5 minutes for everything to come back online and then use them again in case of another mishap.
By your own hand you already point out the main allure of Hardcore; The risk. If you didn’t have all your cooldowns, you may certainly have died, and the lack of a vanish, or a wrong step with vanish when not paying micro attention to bleed effects or poisons, can end a run just as easily as having all of your cooldowns not within reach.
This does not change the fact you bring nothing to the table in terms of solutions, nor are you bringing actual situations into account with hardcore. “As long as I have all six of my cooldowns” is not an argument.
Not me, the entire pvp community for fresh.
Hc would probably be pretty scarce if they released Fresh classic on top of it broskie. I enjoyed my play though HC but we both know it would be.
There should be a PvP HC realm tbh, imagine it actually being real Wars with real conflicts and real deaths.