Add hidden MMR to random BGs.
And do not tell players that you did.
Just write in patch notes “Matchmaking for random bgs has been adjusted.”
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That would help the premade issue, but also just get rid of the factions and make premades only face premades. Its pretty simple
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you want longer queue times?
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it wouldn’t affect queue time
except the queue time of those who like to only play as 5-man full conquest gear stomp groups i guess
but i say this is a very acceptable sacrifice … almost like it’s my intended target to take down
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Why don’t you just play Blitz?
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It’s a good idea in a perfect world. But in reality, people would just lose on purpose to drop their MMR, as they already do in rated PvP. Do you really want that in unrated PvP too? I don’t.
I get the aim, but it would turn out pretty awful. One of the positives for new players is to get to potentially play with seasoned or even elite players from time to time. That’s how people learn. If you put all low players together, the game gets to be pretty awful. This already is happening in Blitz and it needs to be addressed.
If you’re looking for more balanced bgs, there are better ways than mmr.
it would, it’s exactly what is happening in Blitz. and not every body queues premade in regular bgs so they shouldn’t be punished with queue times
Do you think there are unlimited players who play this game? Lol
There are times when alliance queues are 15+ minutes long. Split all the queues among a ton of different ratings? Good luck getting games
This could have been implemented 15+ years ago when this game had the population. Another example of “I have this great idea that I put 0 thought into”. The forum specialty
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would not need this if MMR is added yet invisible because the premades would have higher MMR and their Q’s would be the only to suffer.
I like randomly getting pros on my team though sometimes.
Got trill on his rogue one time.
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Yeah, thats fun having a good player to face against.
The premades of Bis Conq geared dudes facing honor geared pugs is the thing Im not a fan of.
Would be nice to just have a solo, no mmr BG queue for the lols. Even a brawl
They should make a cross faction, solo queue, well-randomized brawl for the most popular regular BG (??) and AV. To see how players like it. I know I’d queue. lol
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Oh I think a lot of people would Q.
I noticed that a number of players only come to the forums when their “gameplay” is effected.
Case in point is Ohbobsaget about the 5 man premade problem.
I like the guy, seems like a good guy, however I know he only ever premades so of course he wants to protect it
just to clear some misconceptions
- having hidden MMR for unranked bg doesn’t mean that all players must be the same overall skill level like in blitz with big queue times, it means the system will ensure there are as much noobs/pros on both teams (or a mix of average players) so the average MMR checks out, i.e: matchmaking will be looser with less MMR gap constraints
- losing on purpose is not a thing in unranked bg: winning feels good and that’s the true reason 5-man premaders exist and spam random BGs
- as an additional safeguard, MMR adjustment would scale by how much a given player was present during the BG (i.e: someone who joined a bg that ended 3 sec later would get 0 MMR adjustment) and a premade that instantly leave the bg when they see a “better” premade would also get 0 MMR adjustment.
Have you actually played rated anything… blizz cant get mmr right, and its been messed up for years.
Hard pass.
Except those times I don’t queue in premades, because I also queue solo
I’ve also always advocated for premades having to fight other premades. They’re by far the best games that wow has to offer, even if you lose
People who think all premades are only in it to stomp pugs don’t understand why most people premade. It’s rarely about wanting the easy games and is more about getting a competent team every game so that when you run into a hard game you aren’t relying on a bunch of useless pugs with no gear whining and crying about premades, avoiding fighting and having no idea how to play in a group
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In that case you support adding hidden MMR
That would help ensure tryhards face other tryhards
Yeah, no. When premades stop prolonging games against pugs to farm honor you can play the “they don’t want to stomp pugs card”. Until then, they’ll be full of players that get crushed in any kind of actual competitive PvP that are there just to farm pugs.
99% of premades don’t do this.