Add classic classes back to retail

It was balanced in vanilla by the raid leaders insistence that only warriors as tank, only holy priests as healers, dps was a dime a dozen. Shaman for totems, mages for food, warlocks for healthstones. And they can spend hours before raids getting shards. Mages had to make stacks and stacks of water. Off-specs didn’t get a spot. The raids were built around those narrow specs and balanced.

PvP was balanced around everyone being scared of shadow priests. Yup.

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No it was cookie cutter for everyone.

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Well, raiding and PVP weren’t the only thing you’d optimize your spec for.

Just play classic

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You don’t have to think very hard to copy a template.

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What thinking would have gotten you was a non optimal setup. Same reason you don’t think now either you just run a sim…

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That still is not a good excuse. Let the players figure it out. It’s a game, not a hand holding simulator.

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It was only cookie cutter for min/max raiders. Most of us in Vanilla didn’t raid and didn’t pay attention to such things. We played for fun and enjoyed our choices and differences. Blizzard lost it’s way when they assumed everyone wanted to raid and they dumbed down or removed everything else in the game.

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In other words they think their customers are idiots.

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You either put your talents a certain way, or you were useless.

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I was when I started in Cata, I was very confused by it, and to have other players tell me that my talents were ‘so wrong’ was pretty frustrating.

But it was finally when people said Icy Veins was the Holy Bible of wow that I shrugged and just stuck to that website.

Yeah, bring back the days of two-button raid rotations, spamming decurse during boss fights, and talents like “1% wand damage”.

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Maybe this would be possible if Blizzard made balanced talents and appropriate level/ilvl gear. Until then it is not possible.

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You are right. If you go play Classic for the raiding I feel bad for you. But most of us aren’t in the least interested in raiding. There is so much more to enjoy in the older version of the game.

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That is not what I saw in Vanilla, but anyway I don’t care if other people have fun with non optimal builds it is cool. Let them have that choice if they want it!

remove esports and retail will be great again.

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Assuming that raiding is the only thing you did in Vanilla…

That’s not what you are doing in almost all cases. Alot of the tree’s are filler which is why they moved away from that.

This will happen at endgame of Classic as well, it did in Vanilla.

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Nah. No need for statistical parity. Again, it’s about letting the players work things out for themselves. Give them reasons to actually communicate about build strategies and run their own tests.

This won’t happen ever again. We got sims for everything now.

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