It’s an extremely tough job. And it’s an essential one too.
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How did all other unions do it before Crowdfunding. Oh right, they affiliated with Union centrals that helped them with the process of Unionizing and provided funds to help them get started.
Because getting a “Strike fund” going before you even form a Union is backwards.
I decided to strike from my job right now. Send me money for my mortgage, it’s due next week. I’ll DM you the details.
k thanx.
If you want a Salary, do work, don’t strike.
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So you think people should just put up with being mistreated at a job. Good to know what kind of person you are.
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I think if people want collective bargaining power, they should unionize, not start GoFundMes. For all we know, this is a single rogue employee who’s going to pocket the cash for a Bestbuy spending spree.
Not naive and easily parted with my money by grifters ? Yep, that’s me.
You keep using that word and I doubt it means what you think. But besides that. That isn’t the point to this whole thing.
The point is workers are striking for better pay and better treatment. No one should have to put up with being mistreated in any job. While I’m not a major supporter of gofundmes I’m also not going to assume its some slimy individual thats gonna pocket it. I’d rather get more information first.
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First, there’s no indication of an actual strike at Blizzard. If some non-Union worker is striking, then he deserves to have his salary cut. Strike requires collective bargaining power. If you solo-strike, expect to solo-not-get-paid too.
You should. The proper way to Unionize is call something like Teamsters of America. They’ll help you with the process, help you poll your coworkers to see if it has a chance to succeed and if it does, they’ll help with the paper work and get you started with some funds until the dues can come in and pay for the Union.
Starting a “Strike fund” on GoFundMe literally screams grift.
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In your opinion it does but thats not the concensus.
Again even if its one worker striking for the betterment of all then that worker deserves whatever help others choose to help them with.
Not every state has unions nor does every place of employment accept them. That’s not the point though.
If someone’s striking for better pay and better treatment, they do not deserve to have thier salary cut.
i was actually thinking of the custodial arts with that comment. not the well paid city waste managment guys that are also union and non profit that come out to our homes and empty our trash bins. and that post was satire, the useless one is the ceo
What concensus ? My opinion comes from experience as an actual Unionized worker. I have been Union for over 20 years.
No, California is an at-will employment state, he deserves to be fired for insubordination.
Every state does and your employer has no right to deny a Union if the workers vote for it. Read up on your Union laws, they’re pretty universal. I doubt Blizzard would shut down entirely over this, which is the only way out for an employer.
In the non-Union world, you can’t strike. It’s literally not a thing. One guy not showing up to work will just get fired and replaced. Striking only works as a collective where the company literally cannot afford to fire and replace everyone.
Again its your opinion, subjective opinion but an opinion nonetheless.
Every state is an at will employment, not just cali. Once again you miss the point. Sounds to me you’d rather the ceos and higher ups treating employees like crap should win. In that kind of reality nothing changes.
If one person starts the strike or if a group do it is irrelevant, sometimes one person is all thats needed to get change to happen.
So workers are just disposable to you. If they become inconvenient then just throw them out. Got it.
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we should automate ceos
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With the idiots ruining… I mean… Running that company, I don’t blame them.
It’s literally the law in California.
Sorry, not where I’m from.
No, I’d rather employees who want to have actual bargaining sway follow proper Unionization procedures, not do these unorganized fantasy grifts that will get them fired and will result in your money paying their new 4K TV.
It is 100% relevant. Striking works only as a collective. As an individual, all it will do is get you fired.
Only change that can happen for one person is a change of their employment status. You don’t get the employer holds all the cards in that scenario do you ? It’s the power balance.
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I hope if they strike, they get fired.
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You dont get that when an employer fires all those striking for better pay and better treatment then that employer won’t have a company.
Just because someone is an employer does not give them the right to mistreat or underpay their employees.
So striking even if its one person which eventually leads into more who agree, is a good thing.
No one should have to deal with being mistreated or underpayed because of your precious little power balance.
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Keyword : “All those”. Since this isn’t a Union, there is no collective here. There is no mass of Blizzard employees striking.
As an individual, all you can do is ask your boss for more and if he refuses, your only recourse is to leave. If the employer cannot fill the position, he’ll have to either up his offer or find another avenue of getting the work done.
If someone on my team at work just decided to no show, leaving me to pick up the slack, I wouldn’t be all like “oh wow, he’s doing this for us”, no, I’d be the first in the bosses office telling him we need to fire him and get a replacement who will show up.
You want to bargain better conditions ? Unionize. I don’t know how else to say it. As a COLLECTIVE, you’ll get collective bargaining power, you switch the balance of power to the workers. But that doesn’t work with GoFundMes, it requires you to follow the proper unionization process.
No, all it does is get that person fired. No call No show doesn’t work except in your naive fantasy mind. In the real world, you just don’t have a job after doing that.
So Unionize or quit. The power balance is something that exists unfortunately for you. Without a Union, the power is mostly on the side of the employer. With a Union, the power balance shifts towards workers.
Facts.
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Theres no naive fantasy land here ragnaros server err stormrage.
You wanna side with scummy ceos by all means do so but when you eventually end up in their position dont come whining here about it.
No, I want to side with proper Unionization procedures that results in proper collective work agreements that forces the employer to provide good conditions to his workers.
I don’t want to side with entitled cry babies who start sketchy GoFundMes.
Again, I won’t. I’m part of a Union. Because we followed proper procedure.
Why is this hard for you to get ? How much real world experience do you actually have ?
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I am glad to see that the employees are taking a stand.
It begins with putting appropriate HR policies in place and actually following them.
What I want to see is a better work environment for all.
Whatever management ignored the policies are the ones that need to be held accountable and let go of.