that is what I said, they are a free game and that is why they brag about 13 million, so I am correct because you are wrong , you said ESO are ashamed of showing their numbers, but they are not, they actually brag about it, I even think a little too much, because you can play the game for free not only to level 20 but to cap level, no subscription needed, I think Blizzard should do the same, so they can also brag about their probably 15 Million players if they go free to play.