Achievement Point feedback. Is TWW the best?

Purpose of this post: Discussing “wild RNG” in achieves. Yes, there is less wild RNG to get TWW achieves done, but what do we do about older expansions?

First off. I’m newer to focusing on Achieves than many of my friends. I only have 30k points. I did some raid achieves during legion and then in shadowlands I began to focus more on achieves, because well, I liked them more than almost any aspect of this game.

There are some parts of the TWW expansion I have not enjoyed (m+ is feeling dated but dwelves are great). But of any complains I have with TWW are not about the overall achievement system.

Getting my meta achieves done in TWW has mainly been a 10/10 feeling. There is still some “time gating,” and RNG of world quests but overall, the fundamental improvements to achievements are really solid. Fel cycle secret finding? YESS PLS! Let’s do more. Was it as challenging as the nightmare mount, probably not, but it was just as fun!

Of all the achievements the ones I’m having the most frustration with are completing the dwelve’s on various stories. Everyday for a couple weeks I’ve been flying to some Dwelves I’m missing to see what story is available. This has been tedious, time consuming and the rotation seems to be mainly RNG. Maybe in the future we could just choose what story is up? Or if we mouse over the dwelve in the map it will show us? I’d also like an FoS for soloing dwelves on the hardest setting.

Overall achievements in TWW are a breakthrough and signficantly better. But here is my issue. Its with some older achieves.

For a few years, well, since Shadow Lands I’ve been trying to complete “Rooting Out the Evil,” and “Winds Against the Flames”. Basically the maw assault events, where we have to do every maw quest for that covenant. Which requires:
**1. The covenant assault to be active, **
2. and 2. Those quests to be available from the bunch.

I can’t explain it. I go to the Maw all the time to farm Stygia bars, throughout shadowlands, and visting quite a bit in dragon flight and now in TWW. But I havent been able to find the quests I need to finish these achieves. They are never in rotation, and probably only available on the weeks when I’m on holiday, or not playing. Or forget to go there.

Thats not fair. Not after multiple years of trying. If it’s older content there should be something where we can just pick the quests we need to do, if they are rotational.

There are other wild RNG gated achieves like the Isaaka fishing net achieve “Taking from Nature.” Where it requires the completion of a world quest in dragon flight that I’ve never seen, not once in years. I only have 2 spots unlocked for this achieve and I check weekly. Or cooking a legendary soup 2 expansions later, when I tried during DF, actually battled the rare but because of some WM bug I never got credit the one time it spawned. And years later still never accomplished it. Now forming a group to do this is challenging. This should not be so difficult now to solo.

Gated achieves, that aren’t so much about skill, and mainly about luck of them being available or requiring a raid, especially years later, make little sense.

Achieves should be accessible. There are the same as hunting a rare, for a mount, or farming a raid for mogs.

I really think we need to do something about cleaning up achieves for older expansions. Especially ones that require a raid or RNG to appear.

I know this would be time consuming to fix, but I dont think these achieves that require multiple layers of RNG should have ever been created in the first place.

Blizzard. Thanks for reading and thanks for creating great overall. I haven’t had this much fun playing WoW for years. Especially in undermine.

I believe I read that for season 2 the stories will be on a static rotation rather than purely random every day.

Edit; I may be thinking of changes to the bountiful rotation though.

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fwiw make sure you aren’t in chromie time in those zones. That will affect many of the quests.

I wish that helped the maw, but not there. It’s just RNG if the assault is in that particular covenants rotation, and the sub quests for that cov are available. I think as a rule going forward, 1 layer of RNG is okay, 2 layers are not great.

Kind of like the shoveling events in the new zone. People are complaining that spawning the rare is RNG, and then the drop from that rare is another layer of RNG. If the rare spawned 100% when 500 count was reached, then players would be okay with just farming that rare until the mount dropped.

So, I’m all for blizzard opening all the quests so gamers can pick and choose the ones they need for the maw assaults. Then we’d only have to wait for the particular cov assault in rotation. It’s been years and for me to not have these done is beyond strange. But I’m still trying.