Accessibility should not have to be earned. Steady flying should be automatically available as an alternative

[Evilperiod-aggramar]

/hugs brainrott

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Me give elf lady hug.

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

@Breel-tichondrius

Okay, I guess I’m not part of the ongoing discussion and pretty much the only one with this stupid condition.

You weren’t part of the discussion I had with that person.

@Barlowe-illidan

I can.

Because the fact of the matter is that I tried to be genuine with Liolang at the rip and was immediately “blocked” (though they keep responding to me, anyways) and insulted into oblivion. At no point have I mocked, harassed, or insulted any person because of their disability, but that hasn’t stopped Liolang from asserting that I have time and again.

The most I have done was tell someone that they were self-victimizing, which admittedly may have been a step too far, but was still, by no means, an attempt to downplay their problems. Rather, it was a grievance I had with someone for trying to bring up their personal issues with skyriding after I explicitly stated that not only did I agree with them that steady flying should be available at launch, but also that I sympathized with their issues. They continued to make the discussion about them after I had moved on from that point, and I admittedly got frustrated because I didn’t see any reason to continue harping on the point if we were both in agreement. It felt like a self-serving attempt to make it about them still.

Nevertheless, my responses have continued to be coopted by Liolang as belligerent, callous towards disabled people, and sociopathic. It’s pathetic that any person with reason would be able to look at Liolang’s slop of comments and think they are even remotely justified for their behavior because of what they believe in.

If you actually think they’re justified, then you’re no better than they are.

Putting words in my mouth.

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Me mad.

Me burn pizza.

No fight please. Me burn pizza.

[Breel-tichondrius]

@Brainrott-queldorei

Me mad.

Me burn pizza.

Oh no! Not the pizza!

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Me lost trax time.

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Because its baseless.
The argument cropped up by a handful of people in DF when dragonriding came to be.
Its literally like the “warthin” crowd trying make a label.
Just because a select few call it a thing and use it for a thing, doesn’t make it a thing for the majority.

And its way deeper than accessibility. As I said. Its not as black and white as you are trying to make it.

You’re doing what I said you did before, literally just saying they’re wrong and you’re right, and that’s why you’re justified in labeling them as trolls.

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Le’sigh.

You can sigh, but fact is, you did say that people used “dead points,” which are just points you disagree with, and used that to justify labeling folks.

@Quivermethis-rexxar

I don’t know who you are trying to fool, but it’s not working on me.

Calling someone out on their hypocrisy when they are flaming someone is not provoking.

Also it seems you don’t want to contribute to the topic other than pointlessly argue and wanting to label people.

Responding to arguments is contributing. You disagree, that’s fine.

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Calling someone out on their hypocrisy when they are flaming someone is not provoking.

Going after him is, when you could just ignore him.

@Barlowe-illidan

Then put your words where your mouth is. Recognize that Liolang is the biggest offender here.

I don’t have to play this game or fall into that trap. I’m not even replying to Liolang’s posts atm. I already said I don’t agree with him on everything.

[Karkasy-wyrmrest-accord]

@Doness-kargath

If your mind goes to extremes whenever people ask for accessibility, then that’s pretty bad,

He’s referring to me and my situation. Which btw guess who is dragonflying now? this guy! I fly like a drunk sailor but I can do it much “smoother” now with the suggestions.

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Me think this. Me no think often.

More say. More talk about.

Me keep phrase short.

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

@Karkasy-wyrmrest-accord

He’s referring to me and my situation.

I thought he was talking about a different person in this thread who also claimed that.

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Me not know.

Me want pickles. No pickles.

Me burn pizza. Today bad.

[Karkasy-wyrmrest-accord]

There was another I think. Frankly this thread is so clogged with trash that they may be referring to someone else with a similar disability.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

I’m glad Opie worked for you. Genuinely.

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Yay! Human have wings.

Human go far.

You go human!

[Nayaga-lightbringer (Nayaga)]

Wish I had more likes left, you deserve one.

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

And all you’ve done is shame me for not taking people at face value.

I asked you why you didn’t, and again, linked you more examples. And yes, you generally should.

@Snowpine-ghostlands

You have nothing of value to say, and I’m out of good will for you.

Uh, right back at you? I was hoping you were one of the more good faith posters on that side, but guess not.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

@Doness-kargath

posters on that side

Labeling people for the sake of labeling people.
Literally part of the problem and contributing nothing.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

I am begging you to find one instance of me shaming anyone for being disabled

They can’t, which is why they keep linking the same posts from ages ago lol.

Its just like how they said the same thing about me, but can’t quote me once over the past 4 months.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

I’m honestly pretty pissed off about it.

[Brainrott-queldorei]

Me think talk present not past.

Past bad. Present good.

No fix past. Present can fix.

@Snowpine-ghostlands

I’m honestly pretty pissed off about it.

Me give fox hug.