Absolutely Tragic State

Is anyone else just absolutely devastated by them rushing the DF prepatch? Like, playing the Beta I was honestly hopeful. There were a lot of things that need fixing (as per usual), but it seemed to me that it was on the right track.

Now, we’re in a prepatch that is literally unplayable with glaring UI bugs (and issues, such as not having an option opt back into the old UI), broken servers, and an absolute ocean’s worth of other bugs - and they have about a month to fix all this.

Realistically, they’re not fixing all of this before DF is officially launched. So now I’m just absolutely crushed by the tragedy of rushing an unfinished product out, since I was so looking forward to DF after the atrocity that was Shadowlands.

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??? If they were rushing we would have gotten the talent / ui changes, the evokers, and the prepatch event itself all in one go.

How is releasing it in stages rushing?

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This last season of Shadowlands (terrible as it may be) was the shortest season I can possibly remember. I don’t think the season itself lasted more than about 9 weeks? Maybe 10? That’s what you call rushing, when you shave off an entire 4 weeks off of a season just to throw out a prepatch that is riddled with bugs and incomplete.

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Wasn’t that a bonus season?

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Is this your first expansion or something? I’m not on board with all the changes, but I’m not surprised at all that there’s maintenance issues or backlash about changes. Happens almost every time.

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It was a drought season. Basically just a reskin of season 3, with absolutely 0 additional content. They completely stopped working on Shadowlands, but didn’t really make meaningful (imo) progress on Dragonflight considering the fact that they absolutely just dropped Shadowlands.

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Not at all, and my issue isn’t just the fact that prepatch is broken the first few days - that’s normal, I agree. It definitely shouldn’t be, but it is. My issue is the fact that they released prepatch in October, and I guarantee they’re not gonna have the time to fix all the issues before the actual release date, which is upsetting because BFA and SL were both TERRIBLE, and DF had potential to be good.

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I wouldn’t call implementing a BONUS season as them completely stopping work on Shadowlands. Not to mention the 9.2.5 update. Compare that to WoD, which you could say they stopped working on in favor of Legion.

Let me put it this way. At least from a PvP perspective, there was unironically not a single thing added in this “bonus” season. There were less than half the people as the previous season playing, and there wasn’t a single patch that fixed any of the glaring PvP problems (most of which were the same problems since previous seasons of Shadowlands).

I completely disagree with everything OP said.

UI seemed fine to me. All I had to do was move the bars around a bit to get it to look very similar to the old UI. And the new one is more customizable and takes up less screen real estate.

I like the new UI and noticed no bugs with it.

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Then you clearly didn’t enter an arena. You can’t use raid-style party frames in Arena, because your party frames will simply disappear.

You’re entitled to disagree nonetheless, though I would argue that what you’re saying doesn’t have much backing to it (i.e you got it very similar to the old UI, so did I, but it’s not the exact same, and the fact that there is no option for that is silly seeing as it takes 0 effort to do that).

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If they fixed it all now, how will they sell the next expansion, huh?

All of this ALWAYS happens. Yikes. They’ll get it, but don’t worry, there still will be plenty to whinge about.

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True. I didn’t do arena. Sounds like Blizzard needs to put in a bit more work there.

I find the new UI to be superior to the old UI.

It takes up less space on my screen so I have a better view of the world. And after rearranging my hotkey bars into similar positions as pre-patch, I can still easily find all my abilities.

See okay, that’s fine. That’s your opinion, and that’s totally fine. But OBJECTIVELY, not subjectively, it’s bad that we don’t just have an option to revert to the old UI. It doesn’t take ANY effort at all, they have the damn code even? That way people who like and dislike the UI can both be happy???

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Hot take, but if people are struggling with the UI, pushing it out a month before the actual expansion when their time matters was the right move.

Gives them time to figure it out and fix any bugs.

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idk im not done setting my ui yet. didnt even get into checking the trees yet.
i hate change :slight_smile:

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I don’t think you realize. They pushed pre patch back by a month - but that also means the actual release date for DF has been pushed back by a month. They’re not gaining any time by doing this.

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It’s 100% fine if you are leveling a new character- it gives you a better feel for the trees as you move through them at each level with a new talent point, alternating each level for each tree.

I would get overwhelmed if I tried jumping in on my main and trying to spec like before, due to all of the options.

Almost every expansion, I start from scratch anyway, to get a better feel for the class reworks.

WoW boomers (just the term imma go with regardless of accuracy) are slow to adapt to change, so this was likely needed to get them ready for DF. This game has been largely the same for 18 years.

Fun fact: No one expected the expansion to come out this year, let alone in November. This is a 2023 expansion being release several months early.

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