rather fists of fury parry gone
Not every class has feint to mitigate AoE nonsense sir. =)
bring back mop ww
can’t just bring back one class’s iteration. gotta bring em all.
Funny enough pressing that ability gives immunity to all ccs, a passive defensive wall for 12 seconds and about 50% movement increases while also getting damage increase and healing increase. Like I can understand maybe immunity to interrupts but everything. This is like when they decided to just bake in for demon hunter that you couldn’t interrupt beam just baseline it.
Additionally for some strange reason the devs decided to give it another healing increase this weekly patch which sparks up some suspicious voice over from players wondering why a tanky spec got a buff to healing which should have only gone to mistweaver.
And this separate from the bloated toolkit with ridiculous damage that it currently has.
Some classes are meant to be noob friendly. WW, Ret, Warrior, DK, Hunter.
Not everyone is smart enough to play a shadow priest, warlock or boomy for example.
You shouldn’t. The play even when karma was 100% was to blow through it.
It’s not a dmg mitigation at all, it has no modifiers to it, it’s just effectively a battlemaster trinket that does a little dmg.
The dot however has a pvp modifier to basically be a worthless dot.
It’s a paper tiger
The game auto becomes easy mode when you play with a good mage and then the third class can be any melee with Ms doesn’t matter
This was a super good change imo.
No class should do less damage on their major cd because of an aoe fear or root or disorient, especially if that class is dispelled or trinkets.
Imagine you pop your cds, get feared, you get dispelled, then rooted, you lust out… and do 60% LESS damage than normal BECAUSE you used a cd and properly played around cc during your cd…
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Demo would like to have a word with you.
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I think demo is a unique case, because it’s essentially a dot spec that you can root/cc the dot instead of dispel it.
Given that demo has to hardcast so much as well to get the damage off, I think that playstyle is pretty fair.
My bigger problem is with bm that does the same thing, but all instant cast from 40 yard range AND CC breaks on the pet.
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No class should have to cast their major offensive cd.
Also true! However, i think the two classes that do (sp and arcane mage) are also the most unkillable classes in the game, so that’s a fair tradeoff IMO.
Demo isn’t fair tbh, it’s playstyle is the most ramp out of any spec in the game.
It’s true full damage potential is realistically impossible to pull off at higher mmrs. The devs know this and buff the spec around 60% output in general.
If demo gets to have the BM treatment with full instant casts spells and pet immunities during cds it would be the most op spec in the game.
But that’s a flaw in design imo. The spec legitimately cannot function fully outside of pve encounters , it even fails at that due to encounters becoming more and more about mobility.
The era of hardcasting is nearing it’s end if pve continues to head in this direction tbh.
This is a hot take probably
but I’d rather ww play like high sustained brawler (like warrior) that can facilitate goes
than a spec completely based around its own 60 second cd that does nothing else between (like some recent iterations of fdk)
were closer now to wod/legion than SL/df and that’s a great thing
just imo
Yeah Demo, BM, and Unholy DK all have to deal with aoe ccs and roots on their burst. Feral spirits aren’t as impactful but they can be cced too. Pretty standard. I’m not saying those should be immune to all CC but the monk having this is kind of an odd choice. Even before the immunity talent CCing the monk didn’t stop the pet channel.
Speaking of Serenity they should just bring it back as an option instead of making the pets immune to CC.
Karma’s dot can also just be dispelled by any healer or cloaked off if you don’t want to take the damage in a close trade. It’s a pretty terrible ability, but it’s also short CD and there are other defensive options so it’s not so bad.
Defensive abilities for many other classes are much more powerful and should be nerfed to have longer CDs or to not be usable while cced. Game would feel better imo. Karma isn’t one that needs nerfed.
Oof that is a bold take, hopefully I just can’t read the sarcasm
The problem is WW physical class doing magic damage now when you check their damage log. Their top damage is either fire nature damage instead of physical. Make conduit do physical damage. And Ret pally top damage is dawnlight dot. What the hell is wrong with this expansion.
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Like 90% of wow players are legally window lickers so blizzard in attempt to appease them is making everything play like Bm Hunter.