People sure love to talk smack about the community council when it’s made up with different kind of people that plays different fields in World of Warcraft. People sure love to hate on he community council for a lot of stupid reasons but at least I know that the community council is beneficial to the game and having different perspectives is good while some or few want to have hive mind.
And plus at least I am the only one in the forums support of the idea of having a community council unlike anyone else. That would lambast them because they want to make the game for everyone and make it accessible and much more quality of life than ever before and streamline the game.
I request for the council to discuss about the infamous Children’s Week achievement “School of Hard Knocks” because people starting to be upset on the trade channel again.
For the people who aren’t aware of it:
It’s a seasonal achievement which forces people to participate in battlegrounds to get the Patron/Matron-title and ultimately the Violet Proto-Dragon mount. Given that the other holiday events are rather easy to manage, this is one infamous for being too inaccessible to the players while also disrupting the gameplay-flow for both sides (pvp and regular).
People have requested for years to get this achievement removed and it would be an interesting conversation to have.
I agree, it’s good to have people at all levels. Most of the conversations in the forums are dominated by people at the top. The rest of us need a voice on issues in the game.
Ok, how can we tell them we are listening to them, without actually listening to them, but keeping a certain level of plausible deniability to us outright ignoring them?
I 1000% agree. That one particular achievement is a huge negative for both normal PvP folks and those who have to try to do the achievement goals.
It is the singular reason I don’t have the meta achievement for all the holidays done.
There is a very good reason it has been the topic of complaints for so many years.
That is outright incorrect. Like it or not, the CMs collect feedback from here, reddit, wowhead comments, twitter, streams, etc. Big streamers have a ton more impact than anyone else - as far as getting heard.
The CC is one part of the feedback, not the entirety of it.
It feels like it is gatekeeping discussion and voices from the community, limiting it to a portion of people that actually do not represent any player at all, unless please correct me if I am wrong, I didn’t not vote or elect anyone to represent me there.
So, it all goes back to our inability - as a community - to respect each other and actually discuss ideas (with respect). That is why we don’t get Devs interacting with us anymore.
So they get a small group of people they selected so they talk with them.
I miss the times when Ghostcrawler would come and talk with us, but back then we were also much better human beings.
Nowadays any thread is a political or social discussion, or someone will find a way to derail the thread into that.
Either way, I don’t expect anything good coming from the community council nor do I care for their existence. It is nothing more than a PR stunt to show us that they actually hear our voices but in reality they are not hearing our voices at all, they are just talking to a bunch of people they have selected and our voices remain unheard.
I have read enough of their posts to know they don’t provide any noticeable feedback that actually represents the player base. More like the feedback they give is solely for their own needs/desires.
Curiously, the only one that was actually giving some decent feedback that actually addressed some of the player base’s concerns was Prosident, which was canceled by the social justice warriors.
Yeah read through that a few days back, but a lot of the tanking brought up there was in regards to the class not so much the race. I know that currently that’s a whole package deal, but in doing so we now have a race that can’t be a tank period. Which is kinda my concern as someone who has been hoping for more dragon themed player options for years.
You’re confusing Community Managers (CM) with Community Council members (CC)
A community council member is a player just like you and me and they can say and do whatever they want (within the rules, like everyone else). They don’t have to make Community Council topics based on what other people want if it isn’t something they agree with.
