She belongs in the maw with anduin, we should weld a giant metal manhole cover over the entrance to the maw and for good measure disable portals to the shadowlands.
Genocide is never ok, no matter how hot the oobas on the corpse are, you’ll never get to body pillow with it because necro is illegal in both wow and our universe, much to Danuser’s chagrin.
Siding with the Jailer because you think the afterlife is unfair is like joining the funny WW2 Mustache Man because you think that the reparation policy of WW1 was unfair.
The latter isn’t wrong, but the former is so much worse.
Especially since Sylvanas only broke with the Jailer because the guy who betrayed everyone else betrayed her as well.
Massive understatement. Not justifying the abhorrent actions or ideas of the Nastys, just pointing out that describing the Treaty of Versailles as “unfair” is downplaying it quite terribly.
Yes, but the point of the analogy is that as unfair as the Treaty of Versailles was, WW2 and all the assorted horrors associated with the funny mustache man and his plans was worse.
Even though it took some time to get rid of that, they way things have changed ie, paintings, VanCleef,and many others, would be an whole revamp of everything they’ve changed out since,espcially in the last couple of years.
Well levelling up this Character through Draenor yuh think wipin out a tribe of Ogres for some magic artifact would count as genocide yeah… oh well as we all know genocide is aok in WoW unless it’s the Night Elves so sucks to be those Ogres
It was picked based upon how you lived your life. It wasn’t them just spinning a wheel of options and sending you to the one it stops upon. If you were a bad person, you were sent to the land “repenting”. If you were truly evil, you went on a guided tour of the Maw. The after life you got was based upon how you lived as a mortal.
For a pretty good reason to be fair. Just look at what happened when Uther was able to remember his mortal life. Instead of receiving the soul of Arthas and delivering it to be judged as he should have, he allowed his personal emotions about Arthas to lead him into making that decision and casting him into the Maw. Now while I do agree that is probably where Arthas should have went, that is not a decision the Kyrian get to make. This is why they were supposed to be striped of those memories.
Think of it as them being a real life baby. They are helpless and depend upon another completely to care/provide for them. After all it is the cycle of rebirth. And the sacrifice was needed, as there was not enough anime to sustain them all. It was a matter of saving what they could at a tragic cost. And we have no indication that those in the rebirth cycle are even aware of what is going on. There just isn’t enough information to even know if they could have been communicated with or capable of even making such a decision.
And to be fair, the “Eternal Ones” have a greater charge that they can not really be that concerned with the mortal realms. Let’s not forget that our world is not the only one connected to the Shadowlands. The mortal realm was too vast and they have never really had a connection with it themselves. Hell I doubt they even understand the concept of being a mortal, let alone what our lives would be like.
You speak of a machine deciding your fate as if it is a bad thing when it is literally the opposite. A machine is fair because it has no capability to be influenced or swayed by emotion. You can certainly argue whatever algorithm is being used to dictate that fate is wrong or somehow unfair, but not the machine who is simply executing the instructions.
A machine could parse through the life of the most vile of individuals…a man as reprehensible as say Donald Trump, send him straight to the worst pits of the Maw, and immediately go after and judge the next person without any of the taint of the last person weighing on their mind. How often are our human emotions and current state of mind affected by things that happened earlier in the day or even farther in the past? Even today, we have judges sitting on benches with the power to literally alter or even end a life and that critical decision can be swayed by as something as basic of the color of skin and their biases ingrained in them.
I’d take a machine judging my afterlife fate over a “human” any day of the week.
As for Sylvanas, I honestly can’t stomach her full arc. Her story is such a major letdown. She 100% should have died defending the Jailer only to be betrayed one final time and the veil lifted from her eyes to see she’s been his puppet all along. It would make her “I’ll never serve” bit all the more crushing to realize not only WILL she serve but she HAS served all along…that she truly became what she hated. That is how you write a tragic victim. Her redemption arc is varying degrees of low/high key irritating.
They were her actions, they were the actions of herself with all of the good bits of her mind erased by the jailer. Again, basically mind controlled.
To simplify the scenario, if you come across a shiny watch and one side of your brain says “steal it” and one side says “that’s wrong”. Then a third party erases the side of your brain that says “that wrong” so your only remaining choice is “steal it”, is that really free will? Or is that closer to mind control.