Its pure nerf, with no counterbalance. Analyzing some details from previous dungeons and some other destros, this nerf won’t will represent a direct 20% on overall damage, but its close, something like 17% to 18%. It’s about 6/7k in a 40k dps average dungeon, considering that you will play with a tank that can manage large pulls, wish isn’t allways the case. Both nerfed skills are top damage for warlock in M+.
I think in higher keys with better equip destro still be fine, but it shows that they doesn’t know what they are doing with the spec, imagine in dragonflight…
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they see logs from giant mass pulls and instead of nurfing mass pulling they nurf all aoe for a spec that can’t do single target
they have no clue what they are doing
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Maybe they don’t want you to play destruction warlock.
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We supposed to get warlock and demon Hunter trees this week I think? Yeah… I’m concerned to say the least
Blizzard:
DF Warlock talent trees will come baked in with 20% Nerfs across the board.
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Blizzard doesn’t even play there own game, big aoe no caps or reducers are good for the game destro post nerf s3 was essentially great and yes i do admit it did too well only because of lack of damage due from other classes getting neglected, all they had to do was tune not destroy a spec.
Ps. i have 0 hope for DF seeing talant trees were designed by people that dont understand the game or anything about game feel.
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Warlocks don’t have AoE caps, the reason for the change is clearly our 4 set bonus coupled with the Infernal conduit. It sucks that our AoE damage was nerfed, but I mean, our AoE damage was pretty phenomenal and is still really good.
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Lmao I can’t imagine those poor Destro locks without a 4 set trying to function right now
They will probably place those inside the talent tree, all classes are getting it
well…I am not much of a destro anyway, I’ll stick to demo.
not really unless your running keys with a tank that pulls big packs to make it worth it. im more worried about our single target with the 20% immolation aura nerf the class already struggles single target now its even worse
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True but, Blizzard once again, focus on detailed stats from higher keys or MDI player runs when they nerf instead of the mass majority of players that try really hard to get to that level but can’t because of PUGs or just work for a living. They have never listened to the lower class players on what would be good for them and instead just listen to higher ranked or pro players on what should be done. It’s sickening.
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I hate that statement, because it’s most likely true. They can make some good things but they cannot balance to save their life. The have their heads in their butts to spread the love out
WoW is not really all that great a platform for e-sports. When they try and balance the game with that in mind not only do they probably do damage to the general playerbase to curb the power of the elite re class power/abilities, it also constrains how dungeons are designed and IMO makes a lot of them feel very “samey.”
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At least demo is still great, but it really feels like a “We’d rather you just not play warlock” moment. All those poor souls without tier just getting the middle finger.
You’d think they’d reduce the cost of relic gear or make relics easier to farm now that S4 is here.
Fuuuuuuuuuuu.
EDIT: Yes it’s a complete sentence EFFING BLIZZARD!
This thread is just…some of yall make my head hurt.
conflating a tuning nerf with WHAT is gonna be on the class tree and spec tree just for the sake of complaining and then on top of that 3 or 4 of you blaming a “high end, chain pulling, mass aoe-ying” boogeyman to feed into your anti esports/competitive mindsets. its exhausting to read here over and over. the game isnt designed around those people, its designed often times in SPITE of them.
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Personally, I LOVED the fact I can run around and SPAM Rain of Fire 
I know it’s OP…just wished it would have lasted to the XPAC.