It’s something that should be considered if it’s extremely effective in what’ll potentially be the most popular mode.
so afk it, now hes down 1 pvp talent. He’ll thing twice about using it next game.
The talent is fairly boring and not very creative, but outside from throuput being overtuned, im pretty sure a close range healer needs some form of way to net get W keyed all game.
There’s the bad takes I promised
30 sec duration 90s CD? Well duh just afk for 30s and try to win in the 60 seconds until the next one 
Sofan doesn’t understand cuz he doesn’t understand how to play the game
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are you stupid? afk the 30 secs if ya can, then do your go after? enjoy a wasted talent.
You dks alreayd hide every 1 min between your grip goes, how bad are you.
Or just go and dont cry so much about a healer with some cc immunity.
We’re all friends here, there’s no need to be uncivil. 
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I do think most people don’t consider the impact of a 30 yard range and the fact that Verdant Embrace potentially puts you into melee range of the enemy DPS every ~20 seconds.
Give it some time. The mid-range class is an experimental concept and—like it or not—Pres does need ways to combat CC for it to be viable.
Is Pres super strong? Yup, it is, but I haven’t found it oppressive on Beta except for the overtuned damage.
we’re barely able to get healers as of now, let em have some fun.
Pres will probably get adjusted but im fine with that CC immune talent.
The melee mongoloids are going to be crying all expac about it, and I’m here for it.
idk about that. hpal is awful and MW is actually good lol
mate that’s effectively cc’ing yourself for 30s, are you high? think before you speak like what am i even reading
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It’s always funny when he says incredibly cooked things then says melee players are mongoloids.
This dude just fumbles around in every thread
30s duration 90s CD absolutely cooked we didn’t like resolve trinket and that other one you activate and this is much worse
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thats literally how the walking dead works. Right now.
Pop everything. Get a kill. Dont get a kill? Reset and hide for 30 secs.
You’re acting like its not what people are already doing at decently high mmr.
Or you know, stop bring crybabies and deal with it.
Again, doubt they’ll change it before season 3 of DF, so keep balling your eyes out, I’m laughing.
Sometimes the holy avenger is a longsword and not a grearsword. What can I say?
i mean good TWD/players can force things before their respective “go’s” so they wouldn’t be hiding all the time unless it’s against something stupidly oppressive like mage/lock comps.
i mean i can deal with it, i have a purge. i’m just not stupid enough to think it’s ok for the game when it’s literally a better version of anything holyward has ever been and that ability has been chain nerfed rofl. it’s not lasting through 10.5 lets be real here.
everything can be dealt with, even the ridiculous evoker 1 shot, but the question is: is it FAIR to have to deal with it? the answer is obviously no. not hard to see, but i guess you enjoy being ignorant.
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I dont know, whats your definition of fair? SP, DH, locks are all going to be pretty opressive come DF time, much more so than devastation 1 shots or pres evoker CC protection.
Pretty sure pres. evoker’s biggest + right now is its raw healing throughput and mana efficiency.
All that being said, there is absolutely nothing in evoker’s toolkit that feels any more ‘‘unfair’’ than a few dozen other things in this game.
Its not ignorance. Stop crying and deal with it.
HPal is actually looking pretty good in the DF beta. Was watching the dew play some yesterday and he was doing 80k HPS and had like 80% uptime on his melee wings. HPal has mana issues if they cast heals but if they just go full DPS heal they can even outlast MWs in soloq
cdew ranked them 3rd behind evokers and rdru
Evoker should get actual defensives, nullifying shroud is just bad for thr game design wise. Its not even that good honestly
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quick hotfix /camp
Then their comp countered your comp? I’m not sure what to tell ya, it happens. If they become a problem and are popular make a dragon slayer comp and farm them.
Warlock, Mage and Evoker all have a CC they can spam to remove it if it’s a must. Evoker can take a fire breath PvP talent that can remove magic effects, not sure if it’s worth it though as that losses them their burst.
The spell has a cast time, and can’t be used in CC or before the match starts. Just wait 30s if you don’t have a class to remove it on demand. It’s not nearly as good when they just spam it all the time. It should mainly be used right before a go so you won’t see it up that often.
Most of the time matches should last longer than 2 min unless the match is one sided. It’s mainly in solo shuffle where it shines as everyone wants to end the round asap.
I do think it could be problematic on the healer spec, but as a downside the spec needs to be much closer to the fight than all of the other healers in PvP at all times. They don’t get to hide behind pillars like other healers to avoid getting hit by CC as easily. It’s fine if classes have skills that can’t be countered by every other spec in the game, if it does end up being problematic then it should be looked at. I think the reason the healing spec is so strong has nothing to do with that ability though.
Bad take, a single talent making multiple comps completely useless is not good for the game. Do you not agree with this? We’re not laying rock paper scissors here.
What? No shot you said that like it was an argument. Yes, you have to use abilities properly, no that does not make it any less oppressive or have any less uptime.
They have the most mobility out of any other healer, and also have multiple abilites where they are immune to cc while using it. They have no trouble avoiding cc even without the ability.
Name 1 other class that makes multiple comps unplayable for 60 seconds in a 2 minute game? Let alone a single other ability that does this.
Wait so your saying the spec is already incredibly powerful without the addition of an incredibly poorly designed ability? Wait it’s almost like thats the point. Even if the ability is removed from the game the spec will be just fine. It has the best healing in the game and the best mana in the game out of all the healers.
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sofan literally s keys and cries abt melee mongos pls ppl don’t reply to any of his takes seriously
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It’s a 30 second duration not 60 and can be easily purged since the evoker has to be close of his team to heal them due to limited healing range
So if you pull back to delay your go the evoker has no choice but to push in and be vulnerable to purge because he isn’t a 40 yd range hpriest that can afk in Australia with cc immunity and peak for a 60k serenity then go back to afking
That being said 90 second cd for this ability is too low it should be 2 minutes
Ur being a little dramatic
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