So much salt, LOL, I love it!
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are you so zug brained you think this is a horde only issue?
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Says 20-40 percent stun resist passive that doesnât even require awareness or a button push to useâŚ
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good to get some positive replys here, I mostly expected just people who run premades to try to bully me till I delete this post. I agree that alliance have to deal with this also when they pug, but lets face it, on horde side its almost all premades. Days of bgs Iâve only seen 1-2 pugs out of like 30-40+ premades. Nearly every game is a premade in ab, and every game is a premade on WSG Side. Itâs pretty bad, and all the people trash talking and trying to justify this are the same people that smile whenever they see they get to fight a pug and not a premade and get free honor instead of having to work for it with skill. Iâve been in premades on my server and it seems horde premades often crush alliance, sadly most the hard core rankers are done on my server, and the majority left dont even want to do premades, so setting one up now feels undoable. Iâm likely just going to unsub to wow for now and play again in like 3 months when the try hards get their rank, and can finally try to leave their house and lose their virginity.
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Go to AV 
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2 hour que times not really viable for trying to rank
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Reroll alliance. I get tons of pug v pug games. My alt rogue is revered with WSG and AB already in 3-4 weeks of playing.
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Not all do, but most do. About 90% of them do. BGs are made just so the Alliance can win. There is an entire YT channel that goes over that such as how the docks are closer to the Alliance base than to Horde until that was fixed that meant that Alliance could get to docs and CAP the base before a single member of the Horde even got within sight of the base. And docks used to be a guaranteed win.
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Play AV alliance just once and see how many of us care about your frickinâ AB/WSG problem.
And this is coming from someone who doesnât care for premades either.
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I get that, but itâs 2 hour ques for us, so best believe when it pops itâs game on for us to work together and try hard to win, couple that with the fact that ab snd wsg is unplayable without a premade, all the solo quests going for 11-14 have to bust their as in av for honor. I get that it sucks to lose but alliance still has a geographical advantage in av, if your players were trying hard I bet they would beat us
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Alliance do not have a terrain / map advantage in AV.
The horde do.
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There was a whole video on why alliance always won av in classic, and their terrain advantages, maybe it was wrong but back in retail ally always win av
OP is clueless. Solo queue is virtually unplayable for both factions because Blizz refuses to match premades vs premades. Also, queue times for WSG and AB are reasonably comparable between factions.
AV is the only battleground with a massive disparity, and thatâs because the Horde have made it not worth the time for Alliance players to go in there.
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So horde loses when they donât have the terrain advantage like in AV ?
What a surprise, reallyâŚ
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OP is extremely difficult to read and follow. But regardless, yes getting match against a premade when youâre just doing a random pickup game is the worst. This is not a faction specific problem, however, obviously. Alliance runs into premades more than 50% of the time.
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It was very kind of them to release BGs one month after the honour system rather than two months like in Vanilla for Alliance, Iâll admit it was a bit boring at first since this was solely for Alliance and without Horde (as clearly Horde didnât get BGs as thatâs what Horde are parroting) it just didnât pop at all.
Not as nice as it was that Blizz dropped the honour system and wpvp about 3 months early, I guess that was for Horde? Seems like thatâs the logic Horde are using.
Also, letâs point out here the factual difference. Alliance didnât âthreatenâ to unsubscribe, they informed Blizz thatâs what theyâd do, and then a substantial number of them did it, which is why- a) you have such massive queues.
And b) since it was largely more casual players that couldnât hack the hours of being camped by raid groups that quit, the massive drop in Alliance casuals on pvp servers.
Of course, that was the goal of the Horde, let us never forget âreroll or quitâ was the response to every thread on the very consequences Alliance warned Horde about months ago and Horde are finally crying about now that itâs hitting you.
So you managed to get rid of Alliance casuals. Guess who tends to pug- casuals. Guess why youâre not getting many pugs in AB/WSG (aside from those BGs being notoriously bad to pug in).
Alliance donât need to justify anything- Horde literally were telling us to group up and premade, and then Horde whined enough to get premades tossed out of AV, killing the BG. Is your hope to get premades kicked out of WSG/AB so you have 4 hour queues in every BG?
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In case it hasnât been obvious too you by now, the game has been perfected over the years. Horde were not doing what they are doing right now back then, and itâs clearly magnified some serious map design imbalances.
The map is screwed. You couldnât defend it if you were alliance. âbut we work as a team and we do call outs andâŚâ
what if both sides are doing that? then what?
the map is broken. I can detail in simple terms WHY the map is broken. You just need to accept it.
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Come on. This is ridiculous. You can queue up your own premade and frequently the pugs are good enough to overcome premades. Blizzard should put in a system of premade vs. premade, but this isnât a horde only issue.
This was actually a bigger issue for alliance at the time than horde because alliance would get stuck holding the bag in a 10 man AV that premades left (and that happened a lot). If you think that wasnât the biggest contributing factor to this change when Blizzard literally hadnât changed it for 15 years, then you are looking at the world through rose colored glasses.
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I like how somehow this is all Allyâs fault. Itâs always their fault.
You canât blame people for taking advantage of playing the underdog faction. Blizzard makes premades possible for both factions believe it or not. The only difference is alliance donât have to wait all day to actually find a game.
Itâs your fault you went with the over populated faction for whatever reason. I only went horde because I wanted a shaman. Now I have an ally also so I can actually enter BGs in a timely fashion.
After playing BGs as alliance its very hard for me to go back and accept the horde que times. I like to call it incentive for the underdogs.
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