A way to do TBC / WOTLK servers: A Quick Guide by Zebzin

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CLASSIC Vanilla

Vanilla Museum Realms: These Museum Realms will only go through the Vanilla content schedule ONCE. Afterward, these realms will forever be in a perpetual “Patch 1.12 Vanilla state”, to exist as a showcase for anyone to play “as is”, for years to come. Also, these are the realms whose data will be used, in Summer 2021, to be automatically “copied and pasted” to the TBC Transplant Realms, A.K.A, the next Expansion. This data includes everything as it was, (Bags, bank, inbox mail, auctions, etc.), for a seamless transition to the TBC Transplant Realms. Players can choose to continue to play on the Vanilla Museum Realms, go through the Vanilla experience as many times as they want on the Re-playable Vanilla Realms or go to the TBC Transplant Realms where their automatically copied character(s) will be waiting for them if they choose to journey onward.

TBC Transplant Realms: Starting Summer 2021, all bags, bank, inbox mail, auctions and other necessary character and server data from the Vanilla Museum Realms will be “copied and pasted” to these TBC realms. This will allow for players to seamlessly progress into the TBC expansion, while still keeping an original copy of their character(s) on the Vanilla Museum Realms they had played prior. Again, all present data at the time of automatic copy of the Vanilla Museum Realms will be taken into account, such as Auctions and items obtained, to ensure the economy going forward into the TBC Transplant Realms remains intact, just like in 2007.

Re-playable Vanilla Realms: Must start from character level 1 each cycle. All data that is saved to these realms: is isolated to these realms, will not progress beyond these realm’s intended expansion and will NOT be copied to another type of realm. These realms all share a two-year cycle, but all progress is wiped and the content schedule is reset after each cycle.

CLASSIC TBC

*TBC Transplant Realms will become TBC Museum Realms on the Summer of 2023 date.

TBC Museum Realms: These Museum Realms will only go through the TBC content schedule ONCE. Afterward, these realms will forever be in a perpetual “Patch 2.4 TBC state”, to exist as a showcase for anyone to play “as is” for years to come. Also, these are the realms whose data will be used, in Summer 2023, to be automatically “copied and pasted” to the WOTLK Transplant Realms, A.K.A, the next Expansion. This data includes everything as it was, (Bags, bank, inbox mail, auctions, etc.), for a seamless transition to the WOTLK Transplant Realms. Players can choose to continue to play on the TBC Museum Realms, go through the TBC experience as many times as they want on the Re-playable TBC Realms or go to the WOTLK Transplant Realms where their automatically copied character(s) will be waiting for them if they choose to journey onward.

WOTLK Transplant Realms: Starting Summer 2023, all bags, bank, inbox mail, auctions and other necessary character and server data from the TBC Museum Realms will be “copied and pasted” to these WOTLK realms. This will allow for players to seamlessly progress into the WOTLK expansion, while still keeping an original copy of their character(s) on the TBC Museum Realms they had played prior. Again, all present data at the time of the automatic copy of the TBC Museum Realms will be taken into account, such as Auctions and items obtained, to ensure the economy going forward into the WOTLK Transplant Realms remains intact, just like in 2008.

Re-playable TBC Realms: Must start from character level 1 each cycle. All data that is saved to these realms: is isolated to these realms, will not progress beyond these realm’s intended expansion and will NOT be copied to another type of realm. These realms all share a two-year cycle, but all progress is wiped and the content schedule is reset after each cycle.

Character copies aren’t done by the players btw, it’s automatic and extremely limited.

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Incoming objections: (not necessarily that I agree with them)

This will split the community, which was a huge aspect of Vanilla WoW.

Blizzard’s Classic team is small and cannot manage many different server types

New server types are not authentic, NO CHANGES yada yada

We don’t need anymore Diablo elements in WoW, the 2 year season cycles will encourage zerging and “get it now” mind sets.

Wrath sucks we don’t need those servers! Yada yada

Wait until the game is actually released before coming out with these crazy ideas

Did I miss anything?

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So many ideas in 1 post.

I would be in favor of Museum Realms. I essentially already have this as I have characters with their XP off at each level. Mostly in BiS gear. It creates the problem of really shattering the players though. and that is a A LOT of totally different games they would have to upkeep. Even locked on a specific patch, the realms would require upkeep.

I don’t see it happening, but it would be fun.

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No… that is all…

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Too soon™

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To be clear, Blizzard is ONLY implementing the first one, Vanilla Museum Realms.

Anyone expecting more, or modifications, or private server changes etc… prepare to be unhappy. This is not because they “can’t”, or they’re “too small” or “it encourages the wrong thing”. Its because they signed up to do one thing, and that’s what they’re going to do. They don’t want to run two MMO development cycles at once. They have no intention of running two development cycles at once, and unless Classic is a runaway success eclipsing Retail, they will not.

If you want to see all these other options, quit trying to remove the “hard” things and don’t “fix” Classic’s flaws. If they see that Classic is immensely popular despite not fixing those problems… they’re far more likely to believe that we would willingly resub for a progressive MMO using the Vanilla paradigms.

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Too Soon. Make a giant server where all the expansions are at with everyone having all seperate iterations of capped characters, make it all on one server also.

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Cause no other games will ever be released after classic. No one will ever want to play a different game. No one will quit and “move on”.

They are laying the foundation with classic to make legacy servers. So far they seem to be on point. Little more forth coming with the info and I’d be declaring then the greatest team of all time. :goat:
Once the foundation is done and classic is on coast they will need more work or ya know maybe blizz can assemble another team?

Them is fighting words! I most certainly do need to kill Arthas again. Not just in Warcraft reforged but with a DK that can tank in all 3 specs.

Yea this is true but looking to the future isn’t all bad either. I’d go through most of the expansions again.

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You sound like someone who’s never worked in a corporation.

Where’s the projected revenue and development costs for these projects? This would all have to be done and triple-stamped before they would even start thinking about dates.

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I’d honestly like going from vanilla to tbc. I can understand why people would be against it tho.

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It depends on Vanilla’s success!

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I don’t think it’s that simple.

Classic Vanilla could be a huge success only to have Classic TBC completely flop.

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To keep it simple, the subject of Burning Crusade.

Among the people who are very enthusiastic about Classic there is no consensus at all about Burning Crusade.

Some would prefer to simply re-roll on a “fresh” server and do it all over again like Diablo seasons. Some want a server that goes on forever in the fully released state. Some want content as addons to Classic, some want to character copy to fresh BC realms.

That is way too much for Blizzard to worry about now. Frankly we just want them to launch Classic, what comes 2+ years from now is a discussion for another time.

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They said they wouldn’t bring vanilla back too, and then they changed their minds.

They’re keeping expectations low for Classic, but if it proves popular enough they’ll want to keep those subs, and a museum won’t be enough after a few years. It’ll still be there for us to visit, but it won’t be all there is.

They’ll do whatever makes sense to them, and if it makes sense to develop content, they will.

Which is kind of what you’re saying here anyway, but the rest of your post ignores the possibility that it might be a success.

We don’t know yet, but it might. Hence speculation about what might come next if it is.

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Classic will not be a new MMO. If Classic proves to be popular, they will make a new MMO based on it. They already said that Classic, no matter what happens, will remain a museum piece, so that people can play it forever, like loading up Super Mario Brothers or Zelda.

A new MMO born of the principles of Classic however, would be a seachange in the gaming industry. But they have to get Classic out, as pristine as they can, first.

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Well, we don’t really know what they’ll do, just that they’ll do something. I’m not sure they’re an ambitious enough company anymore to develop a whole new MMO. I like the thought, I don’t think it’s likely, but hey, it’s another fun thing to speculate about.

I think they’ll always keep some museum servers around. But that doesn’t prevent new servers for TBC or Classic+ further down the line.

They might not have plans for those now, but they can change their minds, just like they did about Classic in the first place.

Whatever their words are now, they’ll do whatever makes sense based on how popular (or not) Classic proves.

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Which is why asking for these modified servers before its successful is pointless.

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Oh, is that how you see it, as asking for this now? Yeah of course asking Blizzard for just about anything (including 1.5 AV, apparently!) is pointless. I’m certainly not posting anything in the hope or expectation of it influencing Blizzard in the slightest.

But as someone who’s probably going to play Classic for the next couple of years, and who won’t want to stay in a stagnant world forever, it’s interesting to discuss the question of what should come next. To bounce ideas around, see what other people want, to think and speculate about what would and wouldn’t be a good idea going forward.

If over the next year or two there’s some consensus for new content, well, we’ll have some ideas about what we should be trying to advocate for.

And hey, we’ll be too busy playing to think about this stuff in a couple of months, so we might as well discuss it now when there’s not much better to do!

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Perhaps this thread is more “theoretical” than most. But the majority of threads since the PVP announcement have been demanding DHKs be removed and AV 1.5 reinstated. Which will not happen. Oh and the year long Guild Bank request.

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I have friends that the moment they heard about classic vanilla they where within seconds bringing up classic TBC idea. Both of which where peak times in WoW and I can see classic TBC happening if Classic wow is a success. They don’t want to progress the servers they have said, out of vanilla content, so i would suppose a copy/paste function would exist.

Ahh yah, sadly we will never see Padrepawns part 15. I also believe that Blizzard might break some bread and stick Korrak and more Guards in AV in a attempt to give a hybrid of it.