A waste of time in LFR - No loot

The expansion is current content. The rewards of the vault are only current season.

You are incorrect. The purpose of the vault is a reward for partaking in the current season content (not last seasons content) and having a guaranteed chance of an upgrade.

It’s already been clarified. It’s for current tier rewards not old tiers.

OK, then I suggest it should be for both, with adjusted rewards.

There ya go, an easy fix that has a negative effect on no one.

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And again….No it shouldn’t.

Forcing people to reclear Mythic vault is an issue.

Or we can not reward people for doing old content.

I ran 13 x last boss in LFR for chances at the mount skin, for 1 whole piece of gear.

Problem with LFR is that you have 25 people, 10 of which are there for a specific reason (that one piece of gear, the mount skin, carrying a friend or whatever), the other 10-15 people need gear, but all 25 will press need if it lets them.

In a guild run and some premades you find people also farm M+ and other raid difficulties so they don’t need gear as much, plus in some guilds they priorities loot to people as needed, you are never going to have good chances at loot in LFR, need to step it up, at least try join some random normal runs and ask them what their loot rules are, anything is better than 10-15 people pressing need on every piece of gear that shows up.

You wanna know whats really a waste of time. Waiting in lfr q for 45min to down raz and never get past phase 1. Lmao

I sure as heck didn’t. I’d go weeks without drops. RNG is RNG.

This was not a thing. No one was getting one piece per boss every time with the whole raid getting loot.

No they did not.

No… they didn’t.

Your personal experience is irrelevant. RNG is RNG. There was never any built in BLP in loot drops. Period.

In other words, you have no argument.

It’s not much different than PL, maybe learn how it works.

Straight from the blue post:

As many in this thread have speculated, all players in Personal Loot were constantly ‘rolling’ behind the scenes, whether you wanted to or not. It’s not as simple as ‘with group loot you’re rolling against everyone, but in personal loot you’re rolling against fewer’.

My personal exeperience in LFR when we had personal loot was I got at least one piece of gear per wing.
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Rarely did i get no loot for a wing and that was balanced out by the rare times i got 2 pieces of loot per wing.
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With the cruddy dragonflight system, I often get no loot per 4 wings.
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So, yeah, dragonflight LFR feels unrewarding at best.

Well, if it’s the only way I can roll on mog, it’s what I’m going to do. Sure to some it’s a waste of time, but to others, mog collection is something they go for (and probably hate the process of).

That does blow.

It’s by design.

Blizzard wants everyone doing the latest content, as their social aspect is the one thing they’re hoping can compensate for all their trash systems.

The problem is that raiding awards barely any loot, on top of having a timegate lockout system, and your gearing essentially winds up waiting on vault timegate, by design.

It’s a huge bait to fall for caring about ilvl chase in this game. Timegate as progression is worthless, but some employees seem to be stuck on doubling down on this.

No.

Personal Loot as a system did not have BLP.
BONUS ROLLS had BLP. And those were discontinued with the launch of Shadowlands, because the Great Vault replaced it as a form of BLP (granted, BfA has a version of both, but let’s just consider that a transitionary period).

It’s just that people now expect a massive upgrade every week from the Vault, so it’s come to be viewed as a given and therefore a negative when they don’t get what they want, instead of what it is, which is a replacement for Bonus Roll BLP.

That said, and I know this thread is a month old, Group Loot still sucks. Even if the odds of getting a drop are roughly equal on average, there’s psychological merit to letting players lose against an internal roll vs letting another player roll need on 3 items they will never equip and win all of them over those who would have equipped them.

Losing to the system is preferable to loosing to another person’s pure greed.