A waste of time in LFR - No loot

Oh, so you’re one of the people who think the ability to ninja from your guild was a positive.

Explains something, ninja.

That’s great. There were also people that didn’t get a single raid drop for clearing on LFR under personal loot.

It’s almost as if loot is RNG and you’re not entitled to loot drops.

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The Not so Great Vault does not award loot for last season’s raid. So if you’re undergeared you’re out of luck on any gear progression via the Not so Great Vault.

Use your brain and think.

Can’t make a Evoker on the same realm lol glad people think a time waste is justified.

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Does it also discriminate against Level 1 players who can’t join LFR?

Good one!!

My brain tells me to do S2 content:

  • Explorer track begins at 376 and caps at 398.
  • Adventurer track starts at 389 and caps at 411.

If you’re too low for that, run some normal/heroic S2 dungeons, gear up and then get to the gear I mentioned above. There’s no reason now to try running LFR Vault of Incarnates outside of hunting xmog, as the item levels you get there aren’t worth the time investment if you’re trying to get into S2 great vault options.

Tell us you don’t know how loot works without telling us

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Nor should it. Want the vault do relative content not last seasons.

I have this idea that the entire content of an expansion should be relevant. Was it in Shadowlands towards the end where they upgraded the gear in the all the raids? (Much of the last expansion is wiped from my memory.)

If they can do that once, they can do it in general. That’s the all around issue with this and other recent expansions - they move too fast through content, making it irrelevant even before the end of the expansion.

What would be good is if gear adjusted dependant on the ilevel of the character receiving it. That way a new character could go into the first raid tier and receive upgrades at a level useful to them, so that they can then progress on to the next raid which would offer the same opportunity to advance. It just seems crazy to me to spend all that time and development on a raid that is useless within a couple of months of its release.

It’s the same with the zones. They bring out a new zone with new rewards, and then soon afterwards bring out another zone so that the first zone’s content is no longer relevant. Too bad if you are new to the expansion and want to do that content, you have buckleys chance of being able to when there is no one else there. So again, development time and effort put into content that has a very short shelf life.

You’re playing the wrong game, gtfo.

You can get the ilevel to do the current LFR PDQ.

The e tire expansion is relevant. However the vault is only relevant for current tier activities which is how it should be.

OK, Im not really commenting on the Vault which is a sort of bad luck guarantee of some sort, more on the content as a whole.

The OP did a vault of the incarnates LFR and is upset that none of it counts towards the vault.

It doesn’t count because the vault
Is for current tier not last tier.

Well, then, maybe it should. A raid is a raid, you don’t do any raid just to exercise your fingers, you do it in the hope of getting useful stuff. If you don’t, why not let it count for the Vault as well? - if the level of gear is appropriate to that raid and difficulty, what does that matter to anyone else in the long run? Its not like they would be getting current heroic level gear.

I’d rather not have my raid vault have a chance to contain Vault items at Vault ilvls, nor create the incentive to clear 7/8M vault every week to get 3 M vault while we extend in abbarus.

No it shouldn’t. The entire point of the vault is to reward players for playing the current raid/mplus/pvp. The vault awards current season items and rewards for doing current content.

Especially this expansion where mplus dungeons are offset.

Dont do it, do some 2 keys, better loot, easier than LFR win win

As far as I am concerned, anything that is part of the ‘current’ expansion, is current content. Or it should be.

And as far as I was aware, the entire point of the vault is to give players the opportunity to gain some gear when they may not have done so in the raid itself. What would it matter to anyone else if I went into the first raid (which I haven’t done), got nothing, but managed to get one piece of gear from the Vault at the appropriate level for that raid? How would that affect anyone doing the second raid?

I don’t really see the issue but perhaps someone can clarify that for me.